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Old 08-03-2021, 03:41   #856
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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And you do know her? It's strange that from day one the tabloid knives were out for this lady, wonder why? Not the same as the 'People's Princess' for some reason.

Royals and there petty fueds should be nowhere near the headlines. They're increasingly irrelevant. The biggest joke is that you and me are funding them.
I've already said I didn't know her when you asked me the other day just like you have done with everyone else who criticised her, you don't know her either but that hasn't stopped you defending her and throwing racism accusations about though. I don't think they have been against her from day one, quite the oppisite in fact I think they were very supportive until the wedding, wonder what happened to get their goat after? That is one thing we do agree on though, I'd rather not see, hear or fund any of them again unless it's Andy getting his collar fealt for any offences he may be guilty of.
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Old 22-03-2021, 19:21   #857
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

Gareth Shaw from Which? went on television today to reiterate the call from his employer & Martin Lewis for the forthcoming Online Harms Bill to include internet scams as part of the remit for Ofcom to deal with incidents of harm caused by inappropriate use of the internet:

https://press.which.co.uk/whichstate...s-bill-update/

Martin Lewis supports this as those with mental health illnesses or disabilities are three more times more likely to be the victim of online scams:

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ne...e-harms-mmhpi/

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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

Still trying to work out what this has to do with internet trolls and the police getting tough with them.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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Still trying to work out what this has to do with internet trolls and the police getting tough with them.
Well doesn't Trolling fall under the purview of the online harms bill? So what is being added to the same bill is pertinent to the conversation.

I think it is good. Trolling and Online bullying can cause tremendous harm as can online scams ( along with any other scam of course ) So adding them all to the bill and hopefully it going forward will bring more powers to the Police for both Trolling, Bullying and Scams all under the same law set
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

Only one way you'll stop online trolls, abuse and scams . .

shut the internet down

oh, can't do that
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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Only one way you'll stop online trolls, abuse and scams . .

shut the internet down

oh, can't do that
Tracking people down on the internet is a lot easier than you think. Most people have no idea what a VPN is and they can not rely on Tor anymore as a number of their exit nodes are closely monitored. Just need laws in place so they can be traced easier. ( I know this will have numbers of people crying civil rights ) of course the scammers are a different kettle of fish but anything is better than what we have at present
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Well doesn't Trolling fall under the purview of the online harms bill? So what is being added to the same bill is pertinent to the conversation.

I think it is good. Trolling and Online bullying can cause tremendous harm as can online scams ( along with any other scam of course ) So adding them all to the bill and hopefully it going forward will bring more powers to the Police for both Trolling, Bullying and Scams all under the same law set
Yup & I totally agree.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

I think the police have enough on their plate at the moment trying to stop these so-called legal protests, where every thug and their dog tag along to and create absolute mayhem, you'd need another police force to trawl through all the shit on the web to bring so called web trolls to boot.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

Frankly, I think this is a dangerous path to take at a time when everyone and his dog likes to exercise their right to be offended on behalf of others as well as themselves. This is a snowflake's ecstatic dream that Harry and Meghan would be happy to get off on.

I really don't think that this idea is conducive to free speech, although of course threats and the use of derogatory language to a person in a hateful way should always be challenged.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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Frankly, I think this is a dangerous path to take at a time when everyone and his dog likes to exercise their right to be offended on behalf of others as well as themselves. This is a snowflake's ecstatic dream that Harry and Meghan would be happy to get off on.

I really don't think that this idea is conducive to free speech, although of course threats and the use of derogatory language to a person in a hateful way should always be challenged.
Well it doesn't happen too often, but this is one of those rare times I agree with you.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

The Telegraph is reporting that, under the Online Harms legislation, websites that don't take enough action to protect their vulnerable users face fines of up to 13 billion pounds & could have their sites blocked to users in the UK.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

It was said on 'Preston' earlier this evening that broadcasters & newspapers are to be exempt as the Government believes that they already have robust & appropriate moderation in place to prevent harm, discrimination, harassment etc of vulnerable people & minority groups.

I do have to say that I haven't experienced harassment, abuse or discrimination of myself or others on the forums/comments section of these organisations, but maybe this has been the result of chance/luck. I really don't know.
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I have been asked to post the following information:

If you've been impacted by online bullying, you can call the Mind Infoline on 0300 123 3393 or visit www.mind.org.uk for guidance and support.
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If you've been impacted by online bullying, you can call the Mind Infoline on 0300 123 3393 or visit www.mind.org.uk for guidance and support.
What do you class as online bullying? I got a 2 (or 3) day ban once, does that count?

I also frequently see information that, unless I disable my add blocker, I can't read articles on some sites . . is that bullying?
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What do you class as online bullying? I got a 2 (or 3) day ban once, does that count?

I also frequently see information that, unless I disable my add blocker, I can't read articles on some sites . . is that bullying?
This police factsheet should answer your question:

There are many ways of bullying someone online and for some it can take shape in more ways than one. Some of the types of cyber bullying are:

Harassment - This is the act of sending offensive, rude, and insulting messages and being abusive. Nasty or humiliating comments on posts, photos and in chat rooms. Being explicitly offensive on gaming sites.

Denigration – This is when someone may send information about another person that is fake, damaging and untrue. Sharing photos of someone for the purpose to ridicule, spreading fake rumours and gossip. This can be on any site online or on apps. We even hear about people altering photos of others and posting in online for the purpose of bullying.

Flaming – This is when someone is purposely using really extreme and offensive language and getting into online arguments and fights. They do this to cause reactions and enjoy the fact it causes someone to get distressed.

Impersonation – This is when someone will hack into someone’s email or social networking account and use the person's online identity to send or post vicious or embarrassing material to/about others. The making up of fake profiles on social network sites, apps and online are common place and it can be really difficult to get them closed down.

Outing and Trickery – This is when someone may share personal information about another or trick someone into revealing secrets and forward it to others. They may also do this with private images and videos too.

Cyber Stalking – This is the act of repeatedly sending messages that include threats of harm, harassment, intimidating messages, or engaging in other online activities that make a person afraid for his or her safety. The actions may be illegal too depending on what they are doing.

Exclusion – This is when others intentionally leave someone out of a group such as group messages, online apps, gaming sites and other online engagement. This is also a form of social bullying and a very common.

Bullying by spreading rumours and gossip

The worst thing about social networking sites and messaging apps is that anything nasty posted about you can be seen by lots of people and these posts can go viral very fast and be shared by so many people within minutes in some cases.

From what we have heard from people who have been bullied online, the most vicious gossip and rumours are often spread by people who were once your best friends so it's best to keep secrets and personal information to yourself. Only tell people things if it wouldn't embarrass you if other people found out about them. Posting false and malicious things about people on the internet can be classed as harassment.

Threatening behaviour

Anyone who makes threats to you on the internet could be committing a criminal offence. It's against the law in the UK to use the phone system, which includes the internet, to cause alarm or distress. It could also be against the 1997 Harassment Act. If threats are made against you then it's essential you confide in your parents, or someone you trust so that they can make a complaint to the police. If you can't print out the threats use the "print screen" button or snipping tool to take a snapshot of the computer screen and then save that somewhere safe. Or if you have a phone or tablet, use the screenshot function and keep these images safe.

Blackmail and grooming

We have had many complaints from young people that new "friends" online have tried to pressure them into taking their clothes off and filming or taking images of themselves. Threats have been made that their parent will be told embarrassing things if they don't take part or they will send the images to everyone they know if they do not do it.

This is an offence called "grooming" in the UK and people who have been found guilty of "grooming" have been jailed. Remember: everyone you meet on the internet is a stranger and you need to keep personal things personal to you, don't share your secrets with other people and if anyone asks you to do anything that makes you feel uncomfortable then don't do it.

We often hear of people in relationships trying to make their boyfriend or girlfriend send sexting images of themselves to prove they love them or want to be with them. It is against the law for anyone under the age of 18 to take, send or redistribute pictures of anyone under the age of 18.

CEOP is The Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre and they investigate cases of sexual abuse and grooming on the internet. You can report incidents by clicking the red button on the top right hand corner of the CEOP website. Although the police can get information from your computer's hard drive, it is helpful if you don't delete anything until the police have decided whether they need it as evidence.

When comments gets abusive

There are quite a few instant messaging apps including Snapchat, WhatsApp, Secret, Whisper and Instagram. They are a great way of sharing things with your friends and having fun. But if things turn nasty you can block people from seeing you are on line and you can save abusive conversations or print them out as evidence.

It's tempting to have a go back if someone makes a rude posting on your online space, social network or app but don't. This is called flaming and it just makes the problem worse. Abusive comments are very upsetting but the best way to deal with them is to get them removed by the website. Read our advice on bullying on social networks to find out how to remove comments.

Inappropriate images

It's easy to save any pictures of anyone on any site and upload them to the internet. Make sure that you have the person's permission to take a picture and that they're happy for thousands of people to see it on the internet. Be wary of tagging and hashtags as this will send the picture out to a wider audience then you may have originally intended.

Don't upset people and then upload their pictures for other people to have a laugh. That could be harassment. Don't digitally alter pictures of people either because what you think is funny may be offensive to other people. Don't let anyone take pictures of you that might embarrass you.

Innocent bystander

There is no such thing as an innocent bystander and if you have seen someone being bullied online, you can report it to the online site or app. Ignoring it may feel like the easiest thing to do but the person who is being subjected to that bullying may need your help and support to get it stopped. Most sites now have a report button which is something you can do and this will send the bullying comments to the site to investigate.

Tips and advice

If you post abuse about anyone else online or if you send threats, you can be traced by the police without any difficulty. Every time you visit a website or make a posting, your internet service provider, Sky, BT or Virgin, has an electronic note of your activity. Even if create an anonymous email address like Gmail, Hotmail or Yahoo, you can still be traced.

Keep safe by using unusual passwords. Use a combination of letters, lowercase, uppercase, symbols and numbers. Don't use any part of your name or email address and don't use your birth date either because that's easy for people who know you to guess. Don't let anyone see you signing in and if they do, change the password as soon as you can.
If you are using a public computer such as one in a library, computer shop, or even a shared family computer, be sure to sign out of any web service you are using before leaving the computer so that you can protect your privacy.
Being bullied online can affect someone enormously. Being bullied can impact on a person’s self-esteem, confidence and social skills. We have supported people affected by this type of bullying, and in many cases they have had to leave school, work and social networks to escape bullying. Try to consider the impact your words may have and think twice before posting.

Think twice before you post anything online because once it’s out there you can’t take it back. It is easy for any comments or posts you make online to be taken out of context and these could be damaging to you in the long term. Read more about digital footprints and how this can affect your life both online and offline
Getting help

There are many ways of getting help to get the cyber bullying to stop. Please read our advice article on bullying on social networks and apps if you want advice on this specific area. Our advice on how to deal with cyber bullying has lots of tips that can help too.

If you would like further support and advice, you can contact us for advice and support. You can call our helpline on 0808 800 2222 or email us at askus@familylives.org.uk. You can talk to us online via our live chat service which is open, Monday to Friday between 1.30pm and 5.30pm.

West Mercia Police have produced informative advice sheets on what to do if you are being bullied online.

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