Black Lives Matter

Originally Posted by Pierre

I’m officially bored of the BLM Issue, Lisa Nandy and the BBC, with the absolute laughable reaction and reporting Of what Dominic Raab said today about the “taking the knee” action.

I wish Aliens would invade, or Yellowstone erupt or something.

They’re failing to take the country with them.

If you're bored talking about racism, imagine how exhausted the people who are experiencing it must feel.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Reality and truth are strange concepts to some.


To suggest they don't exist is just delusional.

In the Real World.
List of Black Churches on "Operation Black Vote" Website.
Link

Link

As I referred to already, it says:

What on earth are Black Majority Churches (BMCs)?

Not 'Black exclusive churches'.

[jfman]

White people stating they are bored of black lives matter is a curious one. As a white, heterosexual, Christian, male there’s a huge vast of equality based rights campaigns that I personally have no affinity to. Would I go out my way to say that lesbian rights bored me? I’d probably wish them well in principle and continue on with my day oblivious.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Yes it says:

Not 'Black exclusive churches'.

And the other link which refers to "Black churches"?

Any examples of White exclusive churches?

Andrew Rogers’ Being Built Together project found 240 black majority churches in Southwark, south London, the greatest concentration of African Christianity in the world outside of Africa it is believed.

Dr Joe Aldred addresses the University of Birmingham
Introduction
I estimate that there may be as many as 500,000 committed Black Christians in the UK, and for better or for worse, I am one example, maybe even a shining example, of what the Black Church they have created in Britain produces.

How many White vicars working in Black [majority] churches? They wouldn't even bother applying.


There's even a Council of Black Led Churches.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by nomadking

And the other link which refers to "Black churches"?

I see nothing in any of the links that still work to say they exclude anyone from any background.

How many White vicars working in Black [majority] churches? They wouldn't even bother applying.

That doesn't mean that the churches would exclude them if they did, and I wouldn't agree if they did purely on the basis of race either.

There's even a Council of Black Led Churches.

Again not an indication of exclusion, but a co-ordination of a minority element of society to increase their voice
https://birmingham.cylex-uk.co.uk/co...-19209942.html

The idea for a Council of Black Led Churches came about after the riots in Birmingham in the 1980's. It began in 1988 as the Black Led Churches Liaison Committee, BLCLC. This was initiated to respond to the need for black churches to be more united and to be represented in places of influence. Its aims were to improve the education, health and employment opportunities for the black community.

Many other minorities in the UK will co-ordinate through similar umbrella groups to speak with 'one voice' on issues that affect them.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by jfman

White people stating they are bored of black lives matter is a curious one. As a white, heterosexual, Christian, male there’s a huge vast of equality based rights campaigns that I personally have no affinity to. Would I go out my way to say that lesbian rights bored me? I’d probably wish them well in principle and continue on with my day oblivious.

Depends how often it's shoved down your throat.

An obviously intelligent chap like yourself must surely be aware that, when you're bombarded with the same information over and over again, it simply becomes a monotonous drone.
I've been hearing about racism all my life, it was around before I was born, and will be around when I've turned to dust.

That's the human species (and nature) for you I'm afraid, we're all still just Primates at the end of the day, with the 'unconscious' traits of tribalism and territoriality still there in our biological makeup.

Given another 50 years you might reduce it to a minimal acceptable level, but with the threats of Global Warming (another monotonous drone), ever increasing population, food/water shortages, and madmen with red buttons, it could all come back very quickly with loud bangs and mushroom clouds



. . . or of course a meteor strike, Yellowstone eruption, another Krakatoa etc

Originally Posted by BenMcr

I see nothing in any of the links that still work to say they exclude anyone from any background.
That doesn't mean that the churches would exclude them if they did, and I wouldn't agree if they did purely on the basis of race either.
Again not an indication of exclusion, but a co-ordination of a minority element of society to increase their voice
https://birmingham.cylex-uk.co.uk/co...-19209942.html

Many other minorities in the UK will co-ordinate through similar umbrella groups to speak with 'one voice' on issues that affect them.

Some sense at last.

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Originally Posted by Carth

Depends how often it's shoved down your throat.

An obviously intelligent chap like yourself must surely be aware that, when you're bombarded with the same information over and over again, it simply becomes a monotonous drone.
I've been hearing about racism all my life, it was around before I was born, and will be around when I've turned to dust.

That's the human species (and nature) for you I'm afraid, we're all still just Primates at the end of the day, with the 'unconscious' traits of tribalism and territoriality still there in our biological makeup.

Given another 50 years you might reduce it to a minimal acceptable level, but with the threats of Global Warming (another monotonous drone), ever increasing population, food/water shortages, and madmen with red buttons, it could all come back very quickly with loud bangs and mushroom clouds



. . . or of course a meteor strike, Yellowstone eruption, another Krakatoa etc

So we needn't bother doing anything.Apathy should be our watchword.

[heero_yuy]

Quote from The Sun:

England rugby fans could be banned from singing Swing Low, Sweet Chariot at games over the song’s associations with slavery.

Fans can usually be heard bellowing out the song from the stands at Twickenham but it's now being examined after the Rugby Football Union launched a review into racism.

The review was started after Black Lives Matter supporters called for a review of Britain’s cultural past and its links to the slave trade.

Protests flared up following the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis while he was in police custody.

The traditional song was written by a black slave in southern America during the 19th century

As for "The Camptown Ladies"

[tweetiepooh]

Originally Posted by nomadking

1) Unless the "poor" cars are that dilapidated, it's unlikely to make much of a difference. If they're that poor they won't have cars to be visible in the first place.
2) The enhanced job opportunities are unlikely to be in that area. Why shouldn't they want to move?
3) The 2nd/holiday home argument is a bit of nonsense. When have the "poor" ever been able to buy properties there? Why should being "poor" give them the automatic right to live there, buy up the properties and then sell them on for a profit, and you're back to square one. The wages and job opportunities are said to be that bad, that no matter what, they couldn't afford to buy a property.

4) If an identifiable group has a higher chance of finding something, then that is exactly the reason they SHOULD be stopped. Eg Several years ago at the Notting Hill Carnival, a group of police decided NOT to search somebody, another group of police weren't so fussy and searched them, finding a gun in the process. Little point stopping little old ladies on the street. Then again if little old ladies on the street were found to be involved in crime, then they too would be stopped.

1) I've lived in areas where the "poor" where the ones with multiple cars, satellite TV etc as they weren't paying for their accommodation. Those who did work were sometimes worse off.
2) First you don't need to live and work in the same area and also you could remain in your community and work to improve it, spend your money there.
3)In some areas people could afford properties on wages available in that area and property prices reflected the area. But that (and the fact it's often a pretty area) made properties of interest to people outside the area who could offer more. The 2nd/holiday home is of relevance if it removes properties from the local housing stock.
4)Yup and it becomes a vicious circle.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

If you're bored talking about racism, imagine how exhausted the people who are experiencing it must feel.

I wouldn't know, i wouldn't be so woke as to suppose to speak for them.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I wouldn't know, i wouldn't be so woke as to suppose to speak for them.

I've had people try to "out woke" me on things that happened to my own family.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I wouldn't know, i wouldn't be so woke as to suppose to speak for them.

If you're 'bored' the thread mate, you shouldn't have started it ! Maybe it isn't going the way you hoped ? See you managed to get the 'woke' word in though, so that must make you feel better

Originally Posted by Pierre

I wouldn't know, i wouldn't be so woke as to suppose to speak for them.

"so woke as to suppose to speak for them"?

Well done, you have won the Brendan O'Neill award for "straw man argument of the day for stating others are doing something they are not as a defence for what you previously posted"...

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Hugh

"so woke as to suppose to speak for them"?

Well done, you have won the Brendan O'Neill award for "straw man argument of the day for stating others are doing something they are not as a defence for what you previously posted"...

So what's your stupid excuse for asking him to do exactly that?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

If you're 'bored' the thread mate, you shouldn't have started it ! Maybe it isn't going the way you hoped ? See you managed to get the 'woke' word in though, so that must make you feel better

Thanks for your participation.

I was bored of The Walking Dead, but still continued to watch it for several seasons in the hope that something new and interesting might happen.

Same thing here.