Coronavirus (OLD)

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

That's not going to be a holiday destination

[1andrew1]

The adverse situation in the Americas (not featuring on this graph) and the USA (shown on this graph) are very concerning.
New York, New Jersey and Connecticut are sensibly imposing a two-week quarantine on visitors from states with high infection rates.

A reader comment from "Homeboy" on the FT indicates why some countries may have got into this situation.

This is the singular benefit of this Covid nightmare, it completely and ruthlessly exposes the incompetent, the unprepared and those lacking vision to adapt. Trump, Johnson and Bolsonaro are the same lazy and tactless chancers who hooked onto the populist bandwagon to gain Leadership. The reality is their governments are full of unskilled sycophants who do not have the technocratic skills to run a Nation.
Populism doesn’t work as much as hate never wins. The wheel is millennia old and there’s no point in reinventing it - we always self-correct, albeit painfully and over time.

https://www.ft.com/content/e3a23551-...b-11dd1f74020f

[Carth]

That's an alarming rise in USA cases over the last couple of weeks . . .

gosh, I wonder what could have caused that

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

That's an alarming rise in USA cases over the last couple of weeks . . .

gosh, I wonder what could have caused that

It must the BLM protests?
Wait - the UK had those as well and we're on the decline.
Must be something else.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The adverse situation in the Americas (not featuring on this graph) and the USA (shown on this graph) are very concerning.
New York, New Jersey and Connecticut are sensibly imposing a two-week quarantine on visitors from states with high infection rates.

A reader comment from "Homeboy" on the FT indicates why some countries may have got into this situation.

https://www.ft.com/content/e3a23551-...b-11dd1f74020f

The primary responsibility lies with the individual states. That is why individual states can introduce such measures.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It must the BLM protests?
Wait - the UK had those as well and we're on the decline.
Must be something else.

That's true . . . probably those damn Russians again eh Andrew

[joglynne]

JUN 23 20204:12 PM

Trump blames rise in coronavirus cases on increased testing, despite evidence of more spread

snippet :- “Cases are going up in the U.S. because we are testing far more than any other country, and ever expanding,” Trump tweeted Tuesday. “With smaller testing we would show fewer cases!”

However, public health specialists have repeatedly said the data does not indicate that increased testing accounts for the recent surge in daily new cases. To dispel claims that testing is to blame for the country’s growing outbreak, epidemiologists point to a figure known as the positivity rate, which indicates the percent of tests that come back positive in a given region.

snip

That States are finding more cases relative to the amount of tests they are conducting provides the strongest rebuttal to the administration’s assertion that case numbers are rising because we’re getting better at finding cases through increased testing,” Jennifer Nuzzo, lead epidemiologist of Johns Hopkins University’s Covid-19 Testing Insights Initiative, wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post. “They tell us the opposite — that each of these states needs to do even more testing to find infections — followed by more rigorous contact tracing and isolation.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/23/trum...of-spread.html

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by joglynne

JUN 23 20204:12 PM

Trump blames rise in coronavirus cases on increased testing, despite evidence of more spread


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/23/trum...of-spread.html

A truer measure would the number of hospitalisations required. That is independent of any testing regime.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The adverse situation in the Americas (not featuring on this graph) and the USA (shown on this graph) are very concerning.
New York, New Jersey and Connecticut are sensibly imposing a two-week quarantine on visitors from states with high infection rates.

A reader comment from "Homeboy" on the FT indicates why some countries may have got into this situation.

https://www.ft.com/content/e3a23551-...b-11dd1f74020f

A minor point perhaps, but I’m disinclined to give much credence to the opinions of people who believe they know where and when to Capitalise their words but Obviously don’t.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

That's true . . . probably those damn Russians again eh Andrew

Well, if the Russia report was published we might be able to make more informed comments.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russ...20-6?r=US&IR=T

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Well, if the Russia report was published we might be able to make more informed comments.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russ...20-6?r=US&IR=T

'sigh' yet another link to a page that wants me to turn adblocker off

oh well, no loss there then

Originally Posted by Carth

'sigh' yet another link to a page that wants me to turn adblocker off

oh well, no loss there then

There you go - happy to help.

https://news.sky.com/story/mp-anger-...eport-12012808

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53142649

[Carth]

Cheers Hugh, quite an interesting read . . if you're paranoid about alleged Russian influence in everything and anything

[joglynne]

Track and trace figures covering – Week Three of contact tracing, England: 11 – 17 June

Originally Posted by Carth

Cheers Hugh, quite an interesting read . . if you're paranoid about alleged Russian influence in everything and anything

I used to be "paranoid about Russians" for a living; the same people I was "paranoid" about are still running Russia, using the same political "influencing" tactics, but now with the power of social media and Big Data to get messages across - much more cost effective and better targeted.