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Old 14-06-2022, 17:39   #4171
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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So Wales supports Scotland financially?
Doubt it , but the amount of taxes I pay supports many around this and two other countries , god knows accountants cost enough , dread to think what it would be with out them as Scotland takes more out of the pot than it put in the rest will be better off . If l was English I'd dump Wales and Northern Ireland as well but that's a whole different story !
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Old 14-06-2022, 18:47   #4172
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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I assume Sturgeon is raising independence now as she knows Johnson is in a defensive position. Not that he will change his mind, but it will distract him from other matters.
To be fair she’s been saying for months she’d raise it now. Had it not been for covid she’d have raised it a year or more ago. If she doesn’t at least look like she’s trying to get a referendum during the present Holyrood parliamentary term, then the wider sep movement will fracture and she will likely get defenestrated. The economics and the polling really don’t make any sense for her right now but she can only prevaricate so long.

She is of course continuing to prevaricate - note the lack of specifics in today’s reheated mince, and also how she plans to drip-feed half a dozen position papers into public view in the coming weeks, without any actual timetable.
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Old 15-06-2022, 09:59   #4173
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To be fair she’s been saying for months she’d raise it now. Had it not been for covid she’d have raised it a year or more ago. If she doesn’t at least look like she’s trying to get a referendum during the present Holyrood parliamentary term, then the wider sep movement will fracture and she will likely get defenestrated. The economics and the polling really don’t make any sense for her right now but she can only prevaricate so long.

She is of course continuing to prevaricate - note the lack of specifics in today’s reheated mince, and also how she plans to drip-feed half a dozen position papers into public view in the coming weeks, without any actual timetable.
i did wonder if the timing was anything to do with distracting from Patrick Grady (SNP MP) facing suspension from the Commons for sexual misconduct.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61798663
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Old 15-06-2022, 18:18   #4174
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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i did wonder if the timing was anything to do with distracting from Patrick Grady (SNP MP) facing suspension from the Commons for sexual misconduct.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61798663

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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Obviously she has solved Brexit and stopped Covid-19 is Scotland then?
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Old 15-06-2022, 23:24   #4177
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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i did wonder if the timing was anything to do with distracting from Patrick Grady (SNP MP) facing suspension from the Commons for sexual misconduct.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61798663
Spot on, sir.
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Old 28-06-2022, 14:49   #4178
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

19th October 2023 proposed as referendum date by Sturgeon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-61968607

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Old 28-06-2022, 15:29   #4179
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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19th October 2023 proposed as referrndum date by Sturgeon.BBC News - Scottish independence: 19 October 2023 proposed as date for referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-61968607
Proposed date of illegal referendum is more like it.
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Old 28-06-2022, 15:43   #4180
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I wish the SNP would just knock it on the head. They had their no answer last time.

At this moment is not the right time to divide the country yet again. We have far more important issues which the people running our country need to work on. Recovery from Covid, cost of living crisis etc.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Supreme Court gonna pick up this tab, can’t see them saying yes to dear wee sweet Nicola.
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Old 28-06-2022, 16:21   #4182
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I think the plan is to get rejected and then hype that as a grievance for the 2024 Scottish Elections.
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I think the plan is to get rejected and then hype that as a grievance for the 2024 Scottish Elections.
Could be the case SNP joins Labour in a Coalition, should there be a Hung Parliament, in GE2024, part of that deal, will be she gets her Westminster consent.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Here we go again with her Indy2, No wonder Scotland is being neglected as she keeps all the money for to fight this situation, People of Scotland need to get together and take a hard look at what we would be like on our own , In the gutter for sure
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Proposed date of illegal referendum is more like it.
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Supreme Court gonna pick up this tab, can’t see them saying yes to dear wee sweet Nicola.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-61968607

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Ms Sturgeon said Scotland's top law officer, the Lord Advocate, has referred the case to the UK's highest court, with court papers being served on UK government law officers on Tuesday afternoon.

The first minister said she hoped the court would be able to "deliver clarity and legal certainty in a timely manner" instead of passing the bill and then facing a legal challenge from opponents.

If the court rules that Holyrood does not have the power to hold a referendum, she said the next general election would become a "de facto referendum" with the SNP standing on a single issue of independence.

However, if the court rules in the Scottish government's favour, Ms Sturgeon said it would move quickly to pass its Referendum Bill, which was published while she was speaking.

She said that the lawfulness of the referendum "must be established as a matter of fact, not just opinion".
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