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Old 17-11-2018, 17:32   #4726
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Now, now. This is going to be a vibrant future of low price streaming services offering high quality content at much lower cost than we pay now!
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Now, now. This is going to be a vibrant future of low price streaming services offering high quality content at much lower cost than we pay now!
Ultimately, yes, but we have a journey to undertake first where sport is concerned. We have to let this play out.
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Has anyone compared say, a subscription to a range of streaming services in the USA, plus broadband subscription against a DirectTV subscritpion?

I'm just curious how the most advanced streaming market is performing for someone who maybe wanted to bundle together like for like services.
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Now, now. This is going to be a vibrant future of low price streaming services offering high quality content at much lower cost than we pay now!
Now who told you that.

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And so the story book went on and on and on with no ending in sight..
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And so the story book went on and on and on with no ending in sight..
It's a brave man who ventures to predict how sport will be divided up in the future. True, we might have a different streaming service for different sports, although some would share (eg for football). But conversely, we may end up with just a small number of big players such as Sky and Amazon providing a variety of the main sporting events.

The only thing I am sure of in respect of sport is that streaming will become the norm over the coming few years, and one of the big streaming companies like Amazon, Discovery or Disney will bid for football Premiership rights in the UK.
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Your current streaming services aren't really a great comparison as broadcasters remove their content you'll be forced with less and less choice on them. Netflix and Amazon currently offer third party content in just the same way Sky and Virgin do. What happens when Disney, Fox , Comcast etc remove their content and your forced to pay more to get the same content.
Maybe this is the kind of deal you will be seeing more of to bring new films to Netflix and Amazon.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2018...y-takes-shape/

Frankly, I don't envisage a crisis over content in the future.

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Viacom’s Paramount Pictures is to make movies for Netflix as part of a new deal between the pair, unveiled at the end of last week.

Speaking on Viacom’s full-year results conference call at the end of the week, Paramount boss James Gianopoulis said that the studio was “exploring new revenue streams in addition to theatrical releases as a producer of first-run films and television for other media platforms”.
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Your current streaming services aren't really a great comparison as broadcasters remove their content you'll be forced with less and less choice on them. Netflix and Amazon currently offer third party content in just the same way Sky and Virgin do. What happens when Disney, Fox , Comcast etc remove their content and your forced to pay more to get the same content.
I think that’s more of a risk to the likes of Netflix in the US market than it is elsewhere. Disney, Fox et al may well want a bigger slice of their home market, but distributing their own content in other markets requires a level of investment that may be too great for the likely additional reward.
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That's exactly what I've been saying I'm not sure OB agrees.

I was merely trying to put my point across to OB that the world he envisages for us all wouldn't actually save us anything.

Look at HBO's deal with Sky Atlantic it would have to sell some subscriptions to make it worthwhile going alone.

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That's exactly what I've been saying I'm not sure OB agrees.

I was merely trying to put my point across to OB that the world he envisages for us all wouldn't actually save us anything.

Look at HBO's deal with Sky Atlantic it would have to sell some subscriptions to make it worthwhile going alone.
It depends how you measure it. If we exclude sport from the equation, we will be getting far better value for money because the good quality content is there. Sky provide all these broadcast channels but you have to really look hard for the good stuff, tucked away within all the reality TV and other rubbish. Whereas, go to Netflix and the choice of good stuff is brilliant - it's in your face.

So when we compare Sky (including Sky Cinema) with Netflix alone, do you really think Sky provides the same volume of good content? Of course it doesn't, and yet Netflix is cheaper.

You point to the HBO deal, but you are not taking account of wholesale deals that can be done by Sky, VM and BT to lower the price to the consumer, and including that in a package of streaming services. Some, like Hayu will be 'free' of extra charge within premium packs.

The other point to make is that if you didn't want to pay for all the streaming services available, you will get to choose which to subscribe to. As has been pointed out before, you could, for example, take Netflix for six months and then Amazon, followed by StarzPlay after another six months because you are not locked into contracts. All of these services will have trial periods and special deals, so the advertised prices will be cheaper still.

As for sports, I think the price of watching some sports such as football and boxing could continue to rise, whatever happens. However, you could get a very large operator such as Amazon coming in with the determination to buck this trend. It's difficult to judge at this stage, but I do think live streaming will be the way forward in the future, despite the current problems some people experience. Such problems as well as latency should be overcome before much longer now.
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Purely personal but I still watch far more through my Sky subscription and my current Sky sub offers me Netflix included so even better value for our household.

As for reality rubbish there is tons of that included on Netflix also.

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Purely personal but I still watch far more through my Sky subscription and my current Sky sub offers me Netflix included so even better value for our household.

As for reality rubbish there is tons of that included on Netflix also.
Indeed, we all have different preferences. I find that my viewing these days is split mainly between the big four terrestrials, Netflix, Amazon, and with some Sky channels or Now TV. It is really noticeable how the Sky channels have deteriorated and now take up so little of my viewing time comparitively.

There may be rubbish also on Netflix, but it is much easier to find the huge amount of good stuff on there. Sky is no match for Netflix, nowhere near.

Sport excluded, of course.
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I actually agree that many can miss shows across a linear guide however this is one area Sky has massively upped it's game in Content Discovery with Sky Q.

It's new series tiles , recommended because you watched etc and promotion of content has got better and better even the terrestrial shows get promoted well.
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I actually agree that many can miss shows across a linear guide however this is one area Sky has massively upped it's game in Content Discovery with Sky Q.

It's new series tiles , recommended because you watched etc and promotion of content has got better and better even the terrestrial shows get promoted well.
I agree, a good innovation by Sky. Viewers do need help in finding the shows that they would actually enjoy viewing.

Trawling through the EPG and channel hopping is tedious and inefficient.
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Looks like Apple SVOD will go mainstream with a new streaming stick shortly.

https://advanced-television.com/2018...ing-tv-dongle/
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