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Old 13-03-2019, 19:50   #8506
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Re: Brexit

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Not true.

The government is still the government because it is appointed by the Queen, not by parliament or by the electorate.

When a general election is to be held, the Prime Minister asks the Queen to dissolve parliament. The Queen does so. From that point on, there are no MPs. There are still government ministers. By convention they don’t do anything radical during the election period but they still hold office and they continue to do so unless and until the Prime Minister resigns.

After an election’s results are known, the PM will either continue in post, or else (s)he will go to Buckingham Palace, tell the Queen that (s)he can no longer form a government likely to enjoy the confidence of the House of Commons, and advise the Queen which member of the House of Commons most likely will have the confidence of the House. The Prime Minister then resigns, and the person they have advised the Queen should appoint is summoned to the Palace and invited to form a government.

In our system, all of that normally happens within hours of an election result being known but in 2010, while the Coalition was being formed, it took several days.

To return to the main point however. The government continues to exist and has full executive power during an election campaign.
Thanks for explaining. So it's the PM and their ministers who run the country. Can they theoretically pass any laws (even though convention says that they shouldn't)? They would almost certainly be passed by this small group consisting of the PM and her closest allies (in theory!)

I.e. could May technically call an election and then push through her deal or cancel Brexit altogether while there are temporarily no MP's?

I do remember that in 2010, due to the time it was taking the Tories to form a coalition, there were fears that Brown might resign, thus causing a constitutional crisis.
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Old 13-03-2019, 19:51   #8507
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Never mind it passed just in time to make me look like an idiot
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Old 13-03-2019, 19:55   #8508
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Reese-Mogg looking rather annoyed
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Re: Brexit

So they have voted to prevent a No Deal Exit, so will now try to delay BREXIT.

Until when? Until they vote the way the EU wants them too?
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Old 13-03-2019, 20:03   #8510
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Re: Brexit

'sigh' . . .

So No Deal Exit has been voted out (but it's not not a legally-binding decision)

They've voted down the option of a delay (in order to come up with a 'managed no deal exit)

They're now trying to delay the leaving date in order to do . . what?

They've had three years and succeeded in doing absolutely nothing apart from earning money, how long would you remain in work if you did the same?

. . soon be time to open another Brexit thread won't it? We've probably got at least another 6 months of it
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I feel sorry for her, works her whole life to get the top job and gets handed this impossible situation with a divided country and an even more divided party and keeps getting up and ploughing on in spite of the wretches around her, she is a far classier act than many of those ass hats. Yes she might be out of her depth and a bit hapless but she always does her best.
why I hate tory party with a passion I agree she got the impossible job left by Cameron how did vote to try unity party go Dave more divided than ever
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Old 13-03-2019, 20:11   #8512
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Until when? Until they vote the way the EU wants them too?
Until there is a deal. I think May might get her deal though, alternatively there is a possibility of a custom's union deal that Labour will support. They might also go for a longer extension for a general election or referendum.

Or the EU might be sick of it and stick with no deal now. They don't sound too impressed with the results tonight and yesterday and their bigger concern is the European elections in May.

Once again Brexit is right there, days away if the ERG and the DUP, want it.

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Old 13-03-2019, 20:14   #8513
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Until there is a deal. I think May might get her deal though, alternatively there is a possibility of a custom's union deal that Labour will support. They might also go for a longer extension for a general election or referendum.

Or the EU might be sick of it and stick with no deal now. They don't sound too impressed with the results tonight and yesterday and their bigger concern is the European elections in May.

Once again Brexit is right there, days away, if the ERG and the DUP want it.
Meaningful vote No.3 next week?
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Old 13-03-2019, 20:18   #8514
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Re: Brexit

Government motion tomorrow states 30th June for the extension even if May's deal were to pass.
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Old 13-03-2019, 20:19   #8515
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Meaningful vote No.3 next week?
Yup

This has played out nicely for may she leverages fear to get those who want Brexit but don’t want her deal by saying it’s a long extension etc. If you don’t go for my deal
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Old 13-03-2019, 20:22   #8516
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Re: Brexit

On the other hand maybe Remainers backing the deal out of fear of no deal are less worried now.
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Re: Brexit

I'm just confused.
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Re: Brexit

Rumours the EU don't believe anything will be sorted and will force no deal anyway to get it over with.
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Rumours the EU don't believe anything will be sorted and will force no deal anyway to get it over with.
I must say that having just watched the farce that is parliament,if i was an Eu negotiator i would say no extension no deal just go.
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I must say that having just watched the farce that is parliament,if i was an Eu negotiator i would say no extension no deal just go.
Can't blame them if they do, who in their right mind would want any of this lot sitting in an EU debate about important matters


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