General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by batchain

https://advanced-television.com/2018...-on-virgin-tv/


Star Network has announced the launch of Star Plus HD and Star Gold HD on Virgin TV, available from November 1st.

Star Plus HD will be available on channel 803 and Star Gold HD will be available on channel 801 on Virgin TV.

Thanks for info.

[jfman]

Foggy1 has become Star Gold HD.

Edit: I should say “the space vacated by” as it disappeared about a week ago.

[Mad Max]

Looks garbage.

[LaLiga]

Originally Posted by jfman

Bad news for anyone expecting Eleven to launch one of the Foggy frequencies has been reconfigured so the full bandwidth is being used by the remaining channels.

Hopefully a sign of no deal and their demise can occur sooner rather than later, allowing the content to return to Sky/BT.

Their La Liga deal is 3 years. Eleven are an international organisation and have a foothold in many countries...I don't foresee a scenario where they go bust and free up the rights when still in contract?

Don't get me wrong, if were to happen tomorrow I'd welcome everything back to Sky/BT but surely they would have anticipated distribution issues.

I love LaLiga but refuse to sign up to laptop/tablet (delayed) football coverage as a matter of principal.

[cheekyangus]

I wasn't particularly interested in the LaLiga change of home, but I was under the impression Sky dumped it as part of cost savings and Eleven simply saw the opportunity to add it to the collection of UK rights they were building for their new service as they were homeless. As such I don't think Sky are in any rush to get them back, it's not like they were outbid.

[denphone]

l think it was more a case of what La Liga were asking for the rights and Sky felt they were not worth the figure they were quoted.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by LaLiga

Their La Liga deal is 3 years. Eleven are an international organisation and have a foothold in many countries...I don't foresee a scenario where they go bust and free up the rights when still in contract?

Don't get me wrong, if were to happen tomorrow I'd welcome everything back to Sky/BT but surely they would have anticipated distribution issues.

I love LaLiga but refuse to sign up to laptop/tablet (delayed) football coverage as a matter of principal.

You can substitute Eleven for Setanta and all of those statements held true at one point in time.

It would be reckless of Eleven if they haven’t isolated their operations in each territory from each other to ensure that losses in one wouldn’t bring the whole operation down.

There is often confusion that because an organisation is big, or profitable as a whole, it is willing to tolerate losses indefinitely. They aren’t, they are investors and each decision made on the basis of likelihood of returns in the medium to long term. Eleven in the UK requires hundreds of thousands of subscribers and the indication is it is falling far short. That position isn’t sustainable.

The fact the La Liga contract is three years makes them more likely to walk away rather than commit themselves to the accumulated losses for the whole period.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

You can substitute Eleven for Setanta and all of those statements held true at one point in time.

It would be reckless of Eleven if they haven’t isolated their operations in each territory from each other to ensure that losses in one wouldn’t bring the whole operation down.

There is often confusion that because an organisation is big, or profitable as a whole, it is willing to tolerate losses indefinitely. They aren’t, they are investors and each decision made on the basis of likelihood of returns in the medium to long term. Eleven in the UK requires hundreds of thousands of subscribers and the indication is it is falling far short. That position isn’t sustainable.

The fact the La Liga contract is three years makes them more likely to walk away rather than commit themselves to the accumulated losses for the whole period.

You may be right, jfman, but it's early days. They still have to build up their sports rights so that their offering gains popularity. It's far too early to write them off yet, IMHO.

[denphone]

Well unless they suddenly get a huge spurt of customers its Adios Amigos IMO.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

Well unless they suddenly get a huge spurt of customers its Adios Amigos IMO.

If it’s not on the biggest platforms - yes that means retailing directly on Sky - I have no idea how that comes to pass with such minority interest content.

I don’t think the model is credible anyway, but you need to maximise your potential audience.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

If it’s not on the biggest platforms - yes that means retailing directly on Sky - I have no idea how that comes to pass with such minority interest content.

I don’t think the model is credible anyway, but you need to maximise your potential audience.

l agree with all of what you said.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

l agree with all of what you said.

Further to my point, and it’s a small one, if they are to rely on app/casting models then my previous post above about the timing of notifications from the BBC etc is relevant.

It’s refresh to have constructive discussion though, yourself and OB are insightful in your thoughts on these matters.

[SonicMaster]

The red button app on Clubland TV appears to have broken yet again... as we have NOW 80s on 346 they should just add NOW 90s to 347 and Total Country to 348 then we would have all 4 of the AATW channels in the main TV Guide.

[RichardCoulter]

I thought that we would have gotten Now 90's on the EPG after the UKTV channels were pulled and they were scratting about looking for channels to fill up the blanks.

[Media Boy UK]

Sky Cinema reveal rebrands for Christmas Holidays:

December 2018:
18th. Sky Cinema Select HD & SD rename temporarily as Sky Cinema Classics.
27th. Sky Cinema Classics HD & SD rename temporarily as Sky Cinema Musicals
31st. Sky Cinema Christmas HD & SD revert to Sky Cinema Drama HD & SD.

January 2019:
1st. Sky Cinema Musicals HD & SD revert to Sky Cinema Select HD & SD