28-01-2018, 22:52
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Sky fibre optic coming
With the news coming from Sky, about having no more dishes. And having fibre optic cable.
This will be a brilliant idea. And maybe VM could reduce its prices as what's the point of having VM cables etc.
When Sky can offer a better deal.
What do members think
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28-01-2018, 22:56
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Re: sky fibre optic coming
Hoe do you know that they will offer a better deal?
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28-01-2018, 22:58
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
Well they wont get much business if they offer a worse deal.
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28-01-2018, 23:06
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by Paul M
Well they wont get much business if they offer a worse deal.
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Yes of course, but it still may not be better, could be similar, and the attraction to a lot of VM customers may well be the fact that they have Atlantic, so some VM customers may well switch for this very reason, and still pay similar to what they did with VM, mind you it'll be interesting to see what their BB speed is like.
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29-01-2018, 02:25
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
I was convinced that Sky would do something with CityFibre more than York - but maybe they're not ready yet, or are also talking to Gigaclear and others. Problem with the dish is you can't as easily spy on your customers for market research purposes. Also, with TV waning, companies such as Sky need a triple-play offering they can build their future on.
Last edited by Onramp; 29-01-2018 at 02:29.
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29-01-2018, 07:15
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
With the news coming from Sky, about having no more dishes. And having fibre optic cable.
This will be a brilliant idea. And maybe VM could reduce its prices as what's the point of having VM cables etc.
When Sky can offer a better deal.
What do members think
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Think the only difference is that there will be no need for a dish Arthur (great idea) the delivery will still be Sky branded Openreach Broadband?
Will be a huge cost saver for Sky which hopefully will reduce prices.
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29-01-2018, 12:02
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by Mr Banana
Think the only difference is that there will be no need for a dish Arthur (great idea) the delivery will still be Sky branded Openreach Broadband?
Will be a huge cost saver for Sky which hopefully will reduce prices.
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Will it be a huge cost saver?
What about costly of getting fibre BB into millions of houses without it.
Even if it saves them money, it will probably mean more profit for Sky!
I would think it has more to do with growing customer base as there must be a lot of people unable to have a dish because of planning restrictions or trees in way etc. Are they plateauing out on their numbers?
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29-01-2018, 14:12
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
All the rural Broadband not-spots will love this.
You can't have a dish & your Broadband's not fast enough so hard luck.
So much for the 2% that can't have satellite now.
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29-01-2018, 14:43
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
The Sky service over broadband is a welcome alternative to satellite for those who do not want or cannot have a dish. As for broadband: Sky would love to sell more, but it's technically quite feasible to use any ISP's service. I'm guessing that Sky's new service will need up to 50mbps, so any Virgin Media broadband customer already has the capability to stream Sky's content when it becomes available (probably in 2019).
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29-01-2018, 15:21
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
I'm not technically minded but I'm guessing that once this is in place Sky will be able to stream their programmes like the Virgin Media on demand and Netflix offerings. If so then shows on the current satellite system will not need to be downloaded as they are at present before they can be viewed making it almost like cable.
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29-01-2018, 15:57
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
Let’s not forget that Sky customers like the ability to download on demand and even complain that you can’t do it when they defect to Virgin Media.
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29-01-2018, 16:42
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by RobboEdin
Let’s not forget that Sky customers like the ability to download on demand and even complain that you can’t do it when they defect to Virgin Media.
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My daughters can't get Virgin and they are impressed that we can just go straight into on demand without downloading it first.
Why would anyone want to download it rather than go straight in? If you want a particular 'on demand' programme on 'My Shows', just bookmark it.
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29-01-2018, 17:03
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
I thought that with Sky Q a lot of their On Demand is streamed, but they have a download buffer so that the box can cope with the varying broadband speeds, rather than the old school version where it came from a hidden channel and was a special linear recording.
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29-01-2018, 17:59
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
My daughters can't get Virgin and they are impressed that we can just go straight into on demand without downloading it first.
Why would anyone want to download it rather than go straight in? If you want a particular 'on demand' programme on 'My Shows', just bookmark it.
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The reason you would want to do it is so you can keep the recording for longer than the catch up or On Demand window.
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29-01-2018, 18:13
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Re: Sky fibre optic coming
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Originally Posted by RobboEdin
The reason you would want to do it is so you can keep the recording for longer than the catch up or On Demand window.
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I thought the programme disappeared when it was taken off on demand. If that is not correct, I guess they have a point.
I still prefer the VM method, though.
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