Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Mislead the forum then

Resign or be sacked!!!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Wow. This is one only. You said it happens all the time that there would no MPs left coz they’d all have to resign. So what you said was wrong and totally inaccurate.

I think the forum would need more cloud storage if he posted an article to every MP misleading Parliament!

[Mad Max]

Sturgeon did not break the ministerial code.

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Sturgeon did not break the ministerial code.

The code requires misleading to have been done knowingly for a breach to have occurred. It seems to me that a great deal of effort has gone in to ensuring she *didn’t* know things, against this very eventuality. It seems pretty clear that her evidence to parliament was very wobbly and misleading but that those around her did just enough to insulate her from what was going on. I believe that’s what the Americans like to call “plausible deniability”.

Interesting that Hamilton has (for now) ducked the issue of whether the code, as written, is even fit for purpose. Sturgeon may not have breached the code as written but it is blindingly obvious that the government she leads was presiding over an absolute circus.

Ah well, on we go to the election. The candidate mailings have started coming through our door this week and we already have our poll cards.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Sturgeon did not break the ministerial code.

So you still get what you pay for in Scotland.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

The code requires misleading to have been done knowingly for a breach to have occurred. It seems to me that a great deal of effort has gone in to ensuring she *didn’t* know things, against this very eventuality. It seems pretty clear that her evidence to parliament was very wobbly and misleading but that those around her did just enough to insulate her from what was going on. I believe that’s what the Americans like to call “plausible deniability”.

Interesting that Hamilton has (for now) ducked the issue of whether the code, as written, is even fit for purpose. Sturgeon may not have breached the code as written but it is blindingly obvious that the government she leads was presiding over an absolute circus.

Ah well, on we go to the election. The candidate mailings have started coming through our door this week and we already have our poll cards.

It's good justice has been done though, isn't it? I'm sure you'll agree Previous politically biased votes count for nothing. She's the best 'leader' in this country atm, but that isn't saying much.

However it's a shame another FM 'got away with it'... Hopefully justice will catch up with him at some point.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Mr K

It's good justice has been done though, isn't it? I'm sure you'll agree Previous politically biased votes count for nothing. She's the best 'leader' in this country atm, but that isn't saying much.

However it's a shame another FM 'got away with it'... Hopefully justice will catch up with him at some point.

Based on what exactly?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Based on what exactly?

Well ask the voters...
https://www.scotsman.com/health/coro...ohnson-3040619

Originally Posted by Mr K

Well ask the voters...
https://www.scotsman.com/health/coro...ohnson-3040619

* Scottish voters ONLY and only 1000+ of them polled - nice try at misleading folk as per usual. Of course most of them love her up there, heaven knows why, she tells utter lies, schools and hospitals have been in a right disgusting state under her watch and she also does not know what democracy is, but then again, neither do you.

[jfman]

Well we now know why grubby accusations were leaked out, breaching the confidence of witnesses and the code of conduct of members of the committee on a Thursday night. The BBC had the big guns out as Laura K found the time to remove herself from the Westminster bubble (and Boris's rear end), virtually I assume, to comment on Scotland.

And yet, it all amounted to nothing but a smear campaign from the opposition. No allegations of misconduct of any substance.

It'll play well to the ~50% of Scotland with no intention of voting SNP anyway, but it leaves the London parties further detached than ever from the other ~50% of the voters they need to persuade in order to win an election here.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Well ask the voters...
https://www.scotsman.com/health/coro...ohnson-3040619

I cannot really think of anything that she has done that was so much different from what Boris did, considering the poll was taken in Scotland, it's of no real surprise that the findings favoured Sturgeon rather than Boris.

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Originally Posted by jfman

Well we now know why grubby accusations were leaked out, breaching the confidence of witnesses and the code of conduct of members of the committee on a Thursday night. The BBC had the big guns out as Laura K found the time to remove herself from the Westminster bubble (and Boris's rear end), virtually I assume, to comment on Scotland.

And yet, it all amounted to nothing but a smear campaign from the opposition. No allegations of misconduct of any substance.

It'll play well to the ~50% of Scotland with no intention of voting SNP anyway, but it leaves the London parties further detached than ever from the other ~50% of the voters they need to persuade in order to win an election here.

Bollox, funny how Mr Hamilton was an SNP member.

[jfman]

You may well disagree Max, but then again you always would for anything that did anything other than condemn Sturgeon regardless of evidence.

Such is how polarised Scottish politics is, it's like living in two different realities.

Originally Posted by jfman

Well we now know why grubby accusations were leaked out, breaching the confidence of witnesses and the code of conduct of members of the committee on a Thursday night. The BBC had the big guns out as Laura K found the time to remove herself from the Westminster bubble (and Boris's rear end), virtually I assume, to comment on Scotland.

And yet, it all amounted to nothing but a smear campaign from the opposition. No allegations of misconduct of any substance.

It'll play well to the ~50% of Scotland with no intention of voting SNP anyway, but it leaves the London parties further detached than ever from the other ~50% of the voters they need to persuade in order to win an election here.

WTAF is this rubbish?

Laura K for the BBC has never been up Johnsons Arse.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mick

WTAF is this rubbish?

Laura K for the BBC has never been up Johnsons Arse.

In your opinion, Mick. She's like a schoolgirl cheerleader to other observers. Peston slightly better but not by much.

Happy to trot out the latest lines from CCHQ but little credible journalism.