Season 2019/2020 Football
12-10-2019, 13:16
|
#241
|
Still alive and fighting
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In the land of beyond and beyond.
Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV.
Posts: 56,321
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc
Nah. Like others, they leave everything till its too late. Then we spend another 5 or so years playing the same fiddle to get back near the top. No ones got the bottle to make the change when the team is still relatively near the top.
Well unless you're Man City or Madrid who will happily cut a manager regardless.
|
Well l certainly don't think Zidane's much heralded return to Real Madrid is going to end well as there is a old saying in football and that is never go back to the same club again as a manager.
__________________
“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”
|
|
|
14-10-2019, 19:53
|
#242
|
Woke and proud !
Join Date: Jun 2004
Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife
Posts: 9,155
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Quite a good goal by young Marcus ... He has potential , just needs to find a decent team to play for
|
|
|
14-10-2019, 20:31
|
#243
|
Still alive and fighting
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In the land of beyond and beyond.
Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV.
Posts: 56,321
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K
Quite a good goal by young Marcus ... He has potential , just needs to find a decent team to play for
|
Always the sourpuss l see Mr K.
---------- Post added at 20:31 ---------- Previous post was at 20:02 ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K
Quite a good goal by young Marcus ... He has potential , just needs to find a decent team to play for
|
Sadly racism has reared its ugly head again during the first half.
__________________
“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”
|
|
|
14-10-2019, 21:30
|
#244
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Northampton
Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 350Mb,
V6 STB
Posts: 7,866
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone
Always the sourpuss l see Mr K.
---------- Post added at 20:31 ---------- Previous post was at 20:02 ----------
Sadly racism has reared its ugly head again during the first half.
|
Is the motive racism though? Or is it just simply trying to put the players off? I'm pretty sure white players(eg Rooney, Beckham) have had abuse thrown at them, and the motive will have been trying to put them off playing.
|
|
|
14-10-2019, 21:40
|
#245
|
Still alive and fighting
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In the land of beyond and beyond.
Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV.
Posts: 56,321
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking
Is the motive racism though? Or is it just simply trying to put the players off? I'm pretty sure white players(eg Rooney, Beckham) have had abuse thrown at them, and the motive will have been trying to put them off playing.
|
What else can the motive behind their taunts be as racism is racism.
Racist taunts in my view are more likely to inspire a player rather then put them off as abuse of any sort is very disappointing to hear on a sporting pitch or within wider society.
FIFA and UEFA need to start issuing more harsher punishments or it will just continue unabated.
__________________
“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”
|
|
|
14-10-2019, 21:55
|
#246
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Northampton
Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 350Mb,
V6 STB
Posts: 7,866
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone
What else can the motive behind their taunts be as racism is racism.
Racist taunts in my view are more likely to inspire a player rather then put them off as abuse of any sort is very disappointing to hear on a sporting pitch or within wider society.
FIFA and UEFA need to start issuing more harsher punishments or it will just continue unabated.
|
So what was the motive behind taunts aimed at white players? What are the motives for "sledging" in Cricket?
If the players are really not that bothered by the taunts, then why are they complaining? If they were really not that bothered they would rise above it, and the taunts would end up being a pointless ezercise.
Compare with the programme on BBC1 last night, " Hindus: Do We Have a Caste Problem?", where taunts were used by people's fellow Hindu work colleagues.
|
|
|
14-10-2019, 22:07
|
#247
|
Oh Lanky Lanky.
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Shaw, Oldham, Lancashire.
Services: 2 TV 360 boxes. 500mb BB, Phone line.
Posts: 7,960
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking
So what was the motive behind taunts aimed at white players? What are the motives for "sledging" in Cricket?
If the players are really not that bothered by the taunts, then why are they complaining? If they were really not that bothered they would rise above it, and the taunts would end up being a pointless ezercise.
Compare with the programme on BBC1 last night, "Hindus: Do We Have a Caste Problem?", where taunts were used by people's fellow Hindu work colleagues.
|
Taunts aimed at white players are not based on their skin colour, nor are they compared to other primates with monkey chants.
|
|
|
14-10-2019, 22:22
|
#248
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Northampton
Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 350Mb,
V6 STB
Posts: 7,866
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom
Taunts aimed at white players are not based on their skin colour, nor are they compared to other primates with monkey chants.
|
But they are both still aimed at putting the player(s) off. What taunts should they be using instead, that might have the intended result? The options are limited.
|
|
|
14-10-2019, 22:36
|
#249
|
Oh Lanky Lanky.
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Shaw, Oldham, Lancashire.
Services: 2 TV 360 boxes. 500mb BB, Phone line.
Posts: 7,960
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Sadly I don’t think for one minute the racist chants of the Bulgarian fascists are intended to simply ‘put the players off’ . The facist salutes, the flags and slogans all point to something far more sinister than simple goading of the opposition or sledging.
|
|
|
15-10-2019, 08:54
|
#250
|
Woke and proud !
Join Date: Jun 2004
Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife
Posts: 9,155
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking
But they are both still aimed at putting the player(s) off. What taunts should they be using instead, that might have the intended result? The options are limited.
|
Well traditionally you out sing the other supporters eg. 'come on Rovers', thereby inspiring your players and subduing theirs. Monkey chants have an equal chance of inspiring those they are aimed at, as it did. They were probably right wing juvenile nationalists with no interest in football - same demographic we've had issues with over the years, but we've moved on.
|
|
|
15-10-2019, 10:58
|
#251
|
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 67
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 42,145
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking
But they are both still aimed at putting the player(s) off. What taunts should they be using instead, that might have the intended result? The options are limited.
|
If the chants are racist to put the players off, they’re still racist chants - not sure what you’re defending here?
__________________
There is always light.
If only we’re brave enough to see it.
If only we’re brave enough to be it.
If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
|
|
|
17-10-2019, 20:37
|
#252
|
Still alive and fighting
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In the land of beyond and beyond.
Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV.
Posts: 56,321
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
A interesting article on the Glazer family at Man Utd.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...ited-liverpool
__________________
“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”
|
|
|
17-10-2019, 22:14
|
#253
|
Oh Lanky Lanky.
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Shaw, Oldham, Lancashire.
Services: 2 TV 360 boxes. 500mb BB, Phone line.
Posts: 7,960
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
And another interesting article on real Man United fans.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...have-fans-not/
|
|
|
18-10-2019, 05:38
|
#254
|
Still alive and fighting
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In the land of beyond and beyond.
Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV.
Posts: 56,321
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom
|
Well they are certainly not fair-weather supporters as l always think one supports a club through thick and thin and equally through success and failure.
__________________
“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”
|
|
|
18-10-2019, 15:53
|
#255
|
Still alive and fighting
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In the land of beyond and beyond.
Services: XL BB, 3 360 boxes , XL TV.
Posts: 56,321
|
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
Barcelona v Real Madrid called off following unrest in Catalonia.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...-date-football
__________________
“The only lesson you can learn from history is that it repeats itself”
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 5 (0 members and 5 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 16:23.
|