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Old 20-12-2017, 08:57   #46
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Re: Uber licence revoked

Are Travel Agents aviation companies or do they merely link up the 2 parties? Same goes for loads of other companies that just link up 2 parties for a transaction.
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Are Travel Agents aviation companies or do they merely link up the 2 parties? Same goes for loads of other companies that just link up 2 parties for a transaction.
Uber is a taxi company.

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Old 20-12-2017, 09:32   #48
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Uber is a taxi company.

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So why is it supposedly different from any other booking type service? Classic case of bias in judicial rulings. The obvious contradiction with other booking type services prove that.
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Old 20-12-2017, 09:41   #49
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Are Travel Agents aviation companies or do they merely link up the 2 parties? Same goes for loads of other companies that just link up 2 parties for a transaction.
But the aviation companies are legitimately separate entities which you can book with directly or via other agents and are not wholly dependent on one provider. They set their own prices, policies and services.

The only agency the drivers have is the choice to work for them or not.
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Re: Uber licence revoked

You get an Uber car to drive you and drop you off. To me that makes them a cab company.
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Old 20-12-2017, 11:05   #51
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You get an Uber car to drive you and drop you off. To me that makes them a cab company.
That is the name given to the service. They don't own the vehicles, interview and select the drivers, have fixed hours etc. Just as Thomas Cook don't own the hotels or actually provide the services in the hotel, but it is still referred to as a "Thomas Cook" holiday.
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Old 20-12-2017, 11:15   #52
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You get an Uber car to drive you and drop you off. To me that makes them a cab company.
Does that make dads taxi service a cab company ?
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Does that make dads taxi service a cab company ?
Depends if dad gets paid for it.
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Old 20-12-2017, 13:10   #54
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Depends if dad gets paid for it.
funnily enough dads just got a fare to pick up son and take to tesco .
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Re: Uber licence revoked

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That is the name given to the service. They don't own the vehicles, interview and select the drivers, have fixed hours etc. Just as Thomas Cook don't own the hotels or actually provide the services in the hotel, but it is still referred to as a "Thomas Cook" holiday.
And any service industry should have to stick to the agreed rules that the rest of that service industry have set up to protect both users and workers.
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That is the name given to the service. They don't own the vehicles, interview and select the drivers, have fixed hours etc. Just as Thomas Cook don't own the hotels or actually provide the services in the hotel, but it is still referred to as a "Thomas Cook" holiday.
Do private hire companies own their cars? No for the most part it is the drivers car.

I can also book my local private hire companies using an app now as well and track the car on a map. much the same as Uber.

They are all cab or private hire taxi companies. Some drivers will actually work for both.
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I think they might be screwed...
I think their plan for domination might have to be rewritten and the whole gig economy might just be at an end to following the supreme court decision today
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I think their plan for domination might have to be rewritten and the whole gig economy might just be at an end to following the supreme court decision today
Very informative.
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Uber set the fare which meant that they dictated how much drivers could earn
So how is that different to where councils set local rates and rules? Or other examples of buyer-supplier relationships.

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Looking at these and other factors, the court determined that drivers were in a position of subordination to Uber where the only way they could increase their earnings would be to work longer hours.
Isn't that how self-employment works.
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So how is that different to where councils set local rates and rules? Or other examples of buyer-supplier relationships.


Isn't that how self-employment works.
Dude ... just accept youíre wrong. The Supreme Court is the last word on what the law means. It has looked at how Uber operates and says British law means Uber is the driversí employer. You can repeat your opinion until youíre blue in the face but thatís all it is - an opinion. And now itís an opinion without any basis in fact, because the Supreme Court has made findings of fact.

The only way for Uber to *not* be their driversí employer in the UK is for Parliament to change the law.
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