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Old 09-02-2019, 09:29   #571
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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Sorry but I disagree with the it’s obviously worse comment. There are many people who suffer from both mental or physical disabilities who are a lot tougher than so called able bodied people.

Stop stigmatising that the bullying of people who suffer from disabilities is somehow worse, it’s not. As before it’s abhorrent in all its forms
It is worse for the reasons outlined and the law recognises this; downplaying it helps nobody. If you watched the programme you will have seen that Mencap are calling for the extension of Hate Crime legislation to deal with internet abuse.

I do recommend that you take a look and hear from those affected and the professionals that care for the disabled.

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Well I'd like to know if anyone of the public intervene? That's when I step in..If I come across it. Doesn't happen in this seaside village because we welcome everyone to come and spend their money and there are a fair few people of all ages living here who are disabled in some way. We also welcome those with mental disabilities as well as those with assistance dogs.
If more people were like the people in your village Maggy, many, many people would have a better quality of life.

Nobody intervened, but I don't know if passers by ignored the incident or if it's because there wasn't any other members of the public present at the time.

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It is worse for the reasons outlined and the law recognises this; downplaying it helps nobody. If you watched the programme you will have seen that Mencap are calling for the extension of Hate Crime legislation to deal with internet abuse.

I do recommend that you take a look and hear from those affected and the professionals that care for the disabled.[

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If more people were like the people in your village Maggy, many, many people would have a better quality of life.

Nobody intervened, but I don't know if passers by ignored the incident or if it's because there wasn't any other members of the public present at the time.
And what about those that aren't disabled?
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Stop stigmatising that the bullying of people who suffer from disabilities is somehow worse, itís not. As before itís abhorrent in all its forms
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Old 09-02-2019, 13:05   #574
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And what about those that aren't disabled?
The programme segment that I recommended to the poster (to hear what it's like first hand from those with learning disabilities who have been attacked both on and offline) and referred to was specifically about disabled people.

I agree that it's unacceptable for anyone to be bullied, but my point is that the effects are likely to be worse for someone who has difficulty understanding the world at the best of times.

If two people were mugged/attacked, one disabled and the other not, it must be far more upsetting & frightening to someone who is nearly blind with a cognitive issue as opposed to someone who can see and process the situation.

About a year ago a friend, who is almost blind, got mugged for his mobile phone. He begged them for his SIM card for his contacts and they gave it back to him.

He promptly went to the police station and the police were able to locate them because their fingerprints were on it
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The programme segment that I recommended to the poster (to hear what it's like first hand from those with learning disabilities who have been attacked both on and offline) and referred to was specifically about disabled people.

I agree that it's unacceptable for anyone to be bullied, but my point is that the effects are likely to be worse for someone who has difficulty understanding the world at the best of times.

If two people were mugged/attacked, one disabled and the other not, it must be far more upsetting & frightening to someone who is nearly blind with a cognitive issue as opposed to someone who can see and process the situation.

About a year ago a friend, who is almost blind, got mugged for his mobile phone. He begged them for his SIM card for his contacts and they gave it back to him.

He promptly went to the police station and the police were able to locate them because their fingerprints were on it
What about elderly or children? There are some what you would consider normal adults who after a mugging or bullying are not the same person for a while if at all. I dislike this labelling of people as it just segregrates people even more.
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The programme segment that I recommended to the poster (to hear what it's like first hand from those with learning disabilities who have been attacked both on and offline) and referred to was specifically about disabled people.

I agree that it's unacceptable for anyone to be bullied, but my point is that the effects are likely to be worse for someone who has difficulty understanding the world at the best of times.

If two people were mugged/attacked, one disabled and the other not, it must be far more upsetting & frightening to someone who is nearly blind with a cognitive issue as opposed to someone who can see and process the situation.

About a year ago a friend, who is almost blind, got mugged for his mobile phone. He begged them for his SIM card for his contacts and they gave it back to him.

He promptly went to the police station and the police were able to locate them because their fingerprints were on it
What experiences do you have of someone with learning difficulties being attacked?
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What about elderly or children? There are some what you would consider normal adults who after a mugging or bullying are not the same person for a while if at all. I dislike this labelling of people as it just segregrates people even more.
The elderly and children are also classed as vulnerable.

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What experiences do you have of someone with learning difficulties being attacked?
Examples have already been provided.
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It is worse for the reasons outlined and the law recognises this; downplaying it helps nobody. If you watched the programme you will have seen that Mencap are calling for the extension of Hate Crime legislation to deal with internet abuse.

I do recommend that you take a look and hear from those affected and the professionals that care for the disabled.

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If more people were like the people in your village Maggy, many, many people would have a better quality of life.

Nobody intervened, but I don't know if passers by ignored the incident or if it's because there wasn't any other members of the public present at the time.
How do you know that I donít suffer from a disability?
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Examples have already been provided.
None then.

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How do you know that I donít suffer from a disability?
I don't.

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Examples were provided today, I suggest you read them.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

Richard you don’t seem to appreciate or understand that the way you’re talking, it comes across as someone who thinks able bodied and those that suffer from disabilities should be treat differently. Something that the vast majority of people who suffer from disabilities simply don’t want
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Richard you donít seem to appreciate or understand that the way youíre talking, it comes across as someone who thinks able bodied and those that suffer from disabilities should be treat differently. Something that the vast majority of people who suffer from disabilities simply donít want
Whether disabled people should be treated the same as non disabled people depends upon the context. Sometimes it is appropriate to do so and at other times it's appropriate to treat them more favourably. It would never be appropriate to treat them less favourably.
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Examples were provided today, I suggest you read them.
So you have no experience of being someone with learning disabilities getting attacked? Have I got that right?
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So you have no experience of being someone with learning disabilities getting attacked? Have I got that right?
I do not propose to repeat myself again.
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Richard you donít seem to appreciate or understand that the way youíre talking, it comes across as someone who thinks able bodied and those that suffer from disabilities should be treat differently. Something that the vast majority of people who suffer from disabilities simply donít want
Being disabled myself you are very correct in your assumption.
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