General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018) - Page 169

pengedragon · 29-10-2018, 13:28

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Originally Posted by jfman

In the absence of any deal to have Eleven on any major platform ahead of their biggest event one can only hope they go bust sooner rather than later.

That's nice, I subscribe to Eleven because I follow Serie A, apart from not showing every game I'm really happy with the service but yeah let's hope they go bust because Sky didn't want La Liga, makes loads of sense that

For what it's worth I watched most of the Clasico yesterday, as usual the PQ was perfectly fine on my TV via Chromecast and the stream was completely solid with zero buffering

Again I hear people saying the stream was behind real time but again I'm not sure how I would be aware of that just from watching the game

denphone · 29-10-2018, 13:35

Best way to check that the stream is behind real time is to check on Twitter as basically goals are up there as soon as they score and then compare that to your stream.

RichardCoulter · 29-10-2018, 17:57

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Originally Posted by pengedragon

That's nice, I subscribe to Eleven because I follow Serie A, apart from not showing every game I'm really happy with the service but yeah let's hope they go bust because Sky didn't want La Liga, makes loads of sense that

For what it's worth I watched most of the Clasico yesterday, as usual the PQ was perfectly fine on my TV via Chromecast and the stream was completely solid with zero buffering

Again I hear people saying the stream was behind real time but again I'm not sure how I would be aware of that just from watching the game

I haven't subscribed because I have little interest in sport, but I don't selfishly & spitefully hope that Eleven Sports go bust. There are investors, members of staff and customers like yourself (especially those who have paid in advance) to consider.

Raider999 · 29-10-2018, 18:17

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Originally Posted by denphone

Best way to check that the stream is behind real time is to check on Twitter as basically goals are up there as soon as they score and then compare that to your stream.

If you are watching a live broadcast of a match why on earth would you look at Twitter to see if anyone has scored - look at the screen!

denphone · 29-10-2018, 18:24

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Originally Posted by Raider999

If you are watching a live broadcast of a match why on earth would you look at Twitter to see if anyone has scored - look at the screen!

He was talking about the stream possibly being behind real time and l advised him one of the ways you can check if the stream is behind the stream time.

jfman · 29-10-2018, 19:25

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Originally Posted by pengedragon

That's nice, I subscribe to Eleven because I follow Serie A, apart from not showing every game I'm really happy with the service but yeah let's hope they go bust because Sky didn't want La Liga, makes loads of sense that

For what it's worth I watched most of the Clasico yesterday, as usual the PQ was perfectly fine on my TV via Chromecast and the stream was completely solid with zero buffering

Again I hear people saying the stream was behind real time but again I'm not sure how I would be aware of that just from watching the game

I’m not obliged to hope every capitalist enterprise succeeds. Indeed the value of capitalism is that failure isn’t rewarded, allowing those who fail the opportunity to refocus their efforts elsewhere and those who succeed to continue.

Literally nobody believes they will break even with their current model.

They’re almost certainly now hoping Amazon but them as an easy mechanism to buy the rights they hold.

Raider999 · 29-10-2018, 19:33

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Originally Posted by jfman

I’m not obliged to hope every capitalist enterprise succeeds. Indeed the value of capitalism is that failure isn’t rewarded, allowing those who fail the opportunity to refocus their efforts elsewhere and those who succeed to continue.

Literally nobody believes they will break even with their current model.

They’re almost certainly now hoping Amazon but them as an easy mechanism to buy the rights they hold.

Or possibly sky decide to get the rights back on the cheap. Another alternative might be Premier Sports - but they seem to be stretching themselves a bit with purchasing the Pro-14 rights

denphone · 29-10-2018, 19:35

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Originally Posted by jfman

I’m not obliged to hope every capitalist enterprise succeeds. Indeed the value of capitalism is that failure isn’t rewarded, allowing those who fail the opportunity to refocus their efforts elsewhere and those who succeed to continue.

Literally nobody believes they will break even with their current model.

They’re almost certainly now hoping Amazon but them as an easy mechanism to buy the rights they hold.

Not a chance given their current model.

pengedragon · 29-10-2018, 19:44

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Originally Posted by Raider999

If you are watching a live broadcast of a match why on earth would you look at Twitter to see if anyone has scored - look at the screen!

This is my point, if I'm watching a game I don't care if its 10, 30 or 60 seconds behind, it's just not something that enters my head

jfman · 29-10-2018, 21:41

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Originally Posted by pengedragon

That's nice, I subscribe to Eleven because I follow Serie A, apart from not showing every game I'm really happy with the service but yeah let's hope they go bust because Sky didn't want La Liga, makes loads of sense that

For what it's worth I watched most of the Clasico yesterday, as usual the PQ was perfectly fine on my TV via Chromecast and the stream was completely solid with zero buffering

Again I hear people saying the stream was behind real time but again I'm not sure how I would be aware of that just from watching the game

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Originally Posted by Raider999

Or possibly sky decide to get the rights back on the cheap. Another alternative might be Premier Sports - but they seem to be stretching themselves a bit with purchasing the Pro-14 rights

Sky don’t reward failure.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I haven't subscribed because I have little interest in sport, but I don't selfishly & spitefully hope that Eleven Sports go bust. There are investors, members of staff and customers like yourself (especially those who have paid in advance) to consider.

It’s neither selfish or spiteful to hope failing ventures do just that. It distorts markets when new entrants with no business model throw money around, fail, and leave others to pick up the tab.

The people to genuinely feel sorry for are those who lose their jobs at the companies who have credible business models, or if/when Eleven fail those clubs who spent money on the basis of that income that is never realised.

It took EFL clubs years to recover from budgeting in good faith on the basis of ITV Digital income that never came to pass.

I have no reason to sympathise with their investors any more than a gambler who loses money at a roulette wheel. They have their eyes open.

Horizon · 29-10-2018, 23:04

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster

Sky's CEO Jeremy Darroch said on an investors call that they intend to reduce the number of linear entertainment channels. No specific channel names were given.

Spreading rumours as if they were facts based purely on speculation is not helpful.

No rumours being spread, just quoting what was said here:
https://www.a516digital.com/2018/10/...rtainment.html

SonicMaster · 30-10-2018, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Horizon

No rumours being spread, just quoting what was said here:
https://www.a516digital.com/2018/10/...rtainment.html

If you read it carefully, it says:

'the names of the channels that he intends to cut were not revealed'

The editor of the website then speculates what he/she thinks might happen.

jfman · 30-10-2018, 13:11

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster

If you read it carefully

That’s a big ask!

RichardCoulter · 30-10-2018, 16:50

It's always a shame when people are indifferent to the fate and losses of others should a particular venture fail, particularly when they actually hope that it will.

jfman · 30-10-2018, 17:12

Such a laughable assertion. An organisation with a failing business model deserves to fail. One that actively pushes up prices for consumers even more so.

Investments aren’t noble, charitable contributions for the greater good of all mankind. They are gambles, like roulette or the 16:45 at Wolverhampton.

Your statement that it’s always a shame would presumably extend to government contractors such as Atos Healthcare, Capita and global weapons manufacturers.