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The point is though that why trust Cummings unless he has documentation to back up what he is saying? The guy seems to have a massive ego problem and is now going after the people who shamelessly defended him just months prior.

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Originally Posted by Chris

I spent a couple of years as a contractor working for civil servants. You might be surprised (or not) how many non-trivial conversations take place during entirely coincidental passing encounters on the staircase or other side corridors.

I am always more surprised when e-mails/documents leak and people have written incriminating stuff in them.

For some people, my enemy's enemy is my friend, plain and simple. Their hatred of Cummings is merely derived from their hatred of Boris, who hired him. If Cummings is going to take a pop at Boris they're therefore happy to go along with it, because his is the scalp they really want.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Chris

For some people, my enemy's enemy is my friend, plain and simple. Their hatred of Cummings is merely derived from their hatred of Boris, who hired him. If Cummings is going to take a pop at Boris they're therefore happy to go along with it, because his is the scalp they really want.

An easy way to dismiss it by spinning the Government narrative, along with emotive terminology like “hatred” as if to imply it’s somehow irrational.

Others can simply acknowledge that Cummings was/is good at what he does, even if playing for the wrong team. Now that he’s a free agent he could have some good stories from inside the dressing room.

If he’s lying it shouldn’t be too difficult to disprove. I’m sure if we are “following the science” we will have Whitty and Vallance out to clearly state this was not their understanding of how events unfolded.

Boris is gone anyway the backbenchers will push him after covid.

[Mr K]

Dom has seen the light, and turned back from the forces of darkness. Granted its taken him getting sacked to do that, but better late than never.

What is amusing is those that were defending his Barnard trip at the time, now saying what a porky pie teller he is. If he is such a fibber what does that say about his 'Leave' campaign ?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Dom has seen the light, and turned back from the forces of darkness. Granted its taken him getting sacked to do that, but better late than never.

What is amusing is those that were defending his Barnard trip at the time, now saying what a porky pie teller he is. If he is such a fibber what does that say about his 'Leave' campaign ?

I'm not saying what a porkie pie teller he is. I'd bet him over Boris.

Originally Posted by Chris

I spent a couple of years as a contractor working for civil servants. You might be surprised (or not) how many non-trivial conversations take place during entirely coincidental passing encounters on the staircase or other side corridors.

I always had a bit of fun with those "corridor conferences" - I would suggest that I sent them an email confirming what we had "chatted" about, and they could confirm my understanding…

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

So after declaring Cummins a liar and untrustworthy charlatan, you're willing to believe anything he says against Boris and the covid plan.

If you believe a word bozo says you want your head testing, the man is a pathological liar who at times seems to lie for lying's sake, Dom might be an unpleasant individual with scant regard for the truth but when it comes to telling the truth he's a school boy compared to bozos level of dishonesty

[Carth]

They all lie you muppet, and they all cover each others backs during the good times.

However, once the crap hits the fan (or your best mate sacks you) the finger pointing and back stabbing begins, with everyone trying to paint a bigger target on anyone but themselves.

If 'Dom the Magnificent' was really so concerned at the way Covid was being handled, he'd have said so at the time . . and probably gained a little respect for doing so.
As it is, he went along with it, was therefore complicit in it, and only when he found himself out of the 'clique' decided he'd try for a little payback.

He's no better or worse a person than any of them, but he's currently the big media story . . and they're bloody loving it

[mrmistoffelees]

I'm going to try and be as balanced (or perhaps that should be honest) as possible on this.

My dislike for DC is on par with my dislike for Boris & the tories in general.

Do i want DC to to be right? Absolutely

Are there questions to be asked about why he didnt raise the issues at the time (hopefully these will be asked)? Absolutely

Do i think any of this will make a blind bit of difference? Not a chance.... Unless DC has irrefutable proof of the allegations he's making, then all this is just willy waving.

[jfman]

The system completely discarded the experiences being seen elsewhere.

British exceptionalism in action.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by jfman

The system completely discarded the experiences being seen elsewhere.

British exceptionalism in action.

I'm not sure that's a fair assessment, most of Europe did exactly the same (at least initially) Apart from APAC the rest of the world doesn't have the real world experience in dealing with this type of event.

That's not to say that we didn't screw up, we did & royally so. But we're not the only nation guilty of such.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by jfman

The system completely discarded the experiences being seen elsewhere.

British exceptionalism in action.

Don't beat yourself up over it.

Well this is quite fun!

[1andrew1]

I think the Dom won't be on Nick Hancock's Christmas card list.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think the Dom won't be on Nick Hancock's Christmas card list.

Did he slag off Room 101?