01-09-2020, 19:36
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telegramsam
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Re: Funding of the BBC
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Originally Posted by Mythica
The license is to watch live TV as it is broadcast, not to use your TV.
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That's what I meant as you well know!
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01-09-2020, 20:06
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Re: Funding of the BBC
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Do you mean like the Fox News channel that closed down in the UK due to lack of viewers?
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Is that the same Fox News that broke UK broadcasting rules?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41887613
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
I could see a freeview service with ads and product placement but a limited output and a premium subscription service of the better(?) output.
That would need to earn it's place in the delivery spectrum so no woke nonsense. The lovvies would hate it.
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But aren't the "lovvies" the biggest part of their audience base???
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01-09-2020, 20:34
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cf.geek
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Re: Funding of the BBC
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Originally Posted by Chris
Not quite - it’s a licence to use equipment to receive broadcasts, not to watch them. You need the licence even if you only use a PVR to record broadcasts for later viewing. (Side note, back in the old days, you were breaking the law if you had a black and white licence for your black and white TV, but also had a video recorder, because the video recorder was receiving and recording colour signals).
It also has an additional stipulation covering reception of “broadcast” via the internet, but uniquely this clause applies only to the BBC and not to any or all TV broadcasts.
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That's basically what I said, just left out the recording part.
It doesn't just apply to the BBC, it covers live broadcasts on all other online platforms too such as ITV player.
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Originally Posted by telegramsam
That's what I meant as you well know!
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How am I supposed to know what you mean? You said it was to use your TV which is incorrect. You can use a TV without needing a license.
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01-09-2020, 20:44
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Re: Funding of the BBC
Sack the overpriced Gary Lineker, who said he would leave if we voted leave. That £1.7m saved for a start.
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01-09-2020, 20:55
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Re: Funding of the BBC
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
Sack the overpriced Gary Lineker, who said he would leave if we voted leave. That £1.7m saved for a start.
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Peanuts when compared to other spending the BBC does. Not that I agree that anyone is worth that amount.
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01-09-2020, 20:57
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telegramsam
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Re: Funding of the BBC
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Originally Posted by Mythica
That's basically what I said, just left out the recording part.
It doesn't just apply to the BBC, it covers live broadcasts on all other online platforms too such as ITV player.
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How am I supposed to know what you mean? You said it was to use your TV which is incorrect. You can use a TV without needing a license.
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As we are talking about TV channels (BBC) I thought it was very clear but apologize I hadn't reconond on some not being able to see that.
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01-09-2020, 21:02
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Re: Funding of the BBC
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Originally Posted by telegramsam
As we are talking about TV channels (BBC) I thought it was very clear but apologize I hadn't reconond on some not being able to see that.
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I can see where you are coming from. If it covers all live broadcasts then why is it only the BBC who gets the money? If the BBC is so good then let its audience pay for it. The other live broadcasters seem to be doing OK with decreased advertising revenue.
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01-09-2020, 21:19
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Funding of the BBC
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Originally Posted by pip08456
I can see where you are coming from. If it covers all live broadcasts then why is it only the BBC who gets the money? If the BBC is so good then let its audience pay for it. The other live broadcasters seem to be doing OK with decreased advertising revenue.
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- Significant decline in the demand for advertising across most advertising categories with total advertising revenue down 43% in Q2 and down 21% in H1, despite good momentum in Q1 with TAR up 2%
- 17% decline in total Broadcast revenue to £824 million (2019 £991 million)
- 17% decline in total external revenue to £1,218 million (2019: £1,476 million)
- 50% decline in adjusted EBITA to £165 million (2019: £327 million) and 53% decline in adjusted EPS to 2.9p (2019: 6.2p)
- 49% decline in statutory EBITA to £159 million (2019: £310 million) and 90% decline in statutory EPS to 0.5p (2019: 4.8p)
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https://www.itvplc.com/investors/results-centre
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01-09-2020, 21:30
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cf.geek
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Re: Funding of the BBC
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Originally Posted by telegramsam
As we are talking about TV channels (BBC) I thought it was very clear but apologize I hadn't reconond on some not being able to see that.
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Well it's something a lot of people believe.
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01-09-2020, 21:49
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Re: Funding of the BBC
If we get rid of the BBC what happens with the revolving door to Downing Street and CCHQ for Spads, media advisors etc?
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01-09-2020, 22:00
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Re: Funding of the BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertain...satellite%20TV.
Interesting article of what happens elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by jfman
If we get rid of the BBC what happens with the revolving door to Downing Street and CCHQ for Spads, media advisors etc?
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Not particularly relevant, my friend. What are your views on how the BBC should be funded? Should it even survive in its present form?
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01-09-2020, 22:25
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Re: Funding of the BBC
I’d bin it, however it’s an arm of the British state to control the proletariat so it will remain as part of the Establishment. It plays an important role in controlling the media narrative that the Government (of any day) wouldn’t trust the commercial sector to do.
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01-09-2020, 22:58
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Funding of the BBC
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Originally Posted by jfman
I’d bin it, however it’s an arm of the British state to control the proletariat so it will remain as part of the Establishment. It plays an important role in controlling the media narrative that the Government (of any day) wouldn’t trust the commercial sector to do.
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But, but, but....
It’s a left-wing tree-hugging commie-symp woke luvvie organisation - how can it be an arm of the establishment whilst being totally against the establishment? 
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01-09-2020, 23:36
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The Invisible Woman
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Re: Funding of the BBC
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02-09-2020, 00:04
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cf.mega poster
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Re: Funding of the BBC
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Originally Posted by jfman
I’d bin it, however it’s an arm of the British state to control the proletariat so it will remain as part of the Establishment. It plays an important role in controlling the media narrative that the Government (of any day) wouldn’t trust the commercial sector to do.
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Trolling again just for another argument?
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