20-06-2021, 12:15
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LAND PROJECTED TO BE BELOW ANNUAL FLOOD LEVEL IN 2050
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Improved elevation data indicates far greater global threats from sea level rise and coastal flooding than previously thought, and thus greater benefits from reducing their causes.
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I found this on line and thought others might find it interesting. I will be long gone before the predictions for 2050 but my son and his family will certainly be around to we see the changes to our coastlines if these predictions are accurate. Just add your chosen location top right.
https://coastal.climatecentral.org/m...odel=kopp_2014
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20-06-2021, 12:34
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
I'll be long gone too
I sometimes look at these prediction maps and wonder how many nuclear power plants are in areas that could be affected
Not that it probably makes much difference considering the amount of crap dumped in the sea years ago . . sitting there quietly festering
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20-06-2021, 12:50
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
By far the biggest threat facing us, not that you'd know it, given our obsession with everything else. Forget covid and nuclear weapons.
'Not going to happen in my lifetime' is typical of this selfish generation (and may not be right) Things seemed to be accelerating faster than we thought and heating may now be irreversible, as we've passed the tipping point.
https://www.independent.co.uk/climat...-b1867876.html
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The scientist who led the largest-ever research expedition to the Arctic has suggested that the tipping point for irreversible global heating may have already been reached.
Dr Markus Rex, an atmospheric physicist, made the comments earlier this week as he presented the initial findings of the North Pole expedition which involved 442 experts from 20 countries.
The disappearance of summer sea ice in the Arctic is one of the first landmines in this minefield, one of the tipping points that we set off first when we push warming too far,”
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20-06-2021, 13:07
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
Devon Island, inside the Arctic Circle, had grasses and other plants just 9,000 years ago. It's now covered in ice. How? The glaciers there are melting because of geothermal warming, ie natural causes. Manhattan was covered by 2,00ft of ice that started to melt just as "recently" as 16,000 BC. What caused the melting, if not Natural Climate Change?
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Devon Island, inside the Arctic Circle, had grasses and other plants just 9,000 years ago. It's now covered in ice. How? The glaciers there are melting because of geothermal warming, ie natural causes. Manhattan was covered by 2,00ft of ice that started to melt just as "recently" as 16,000 BC. What caused the melting, if not Natural Climate Change?
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Look at the rates of temperate increase compared to any natural change in the past if you're really interested. . Its much, much faster and concides with the increase in CO2 levels over the last century ( not tens of thousands of years of past natural change)
I'm afraid is misinformation like yours, short term profiteering, and not wanting to face 'an unconvienient truth' that have caused us to pass the point of no return.
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20-06-2021, 13:24
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
I seem to recall that there was a mini-ice age a few centuries ago. That certainly wasn’t the fault of man. The climate is quite capable of sudden changes, but fortunately it doesn’t happen as a regular occurrence.
While the general consensus in the scientific community is that the warming of the planet is man made, we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that climate change can be due to other factors such as cyclical variations in solar radiation, variations in the orbit of the Earth, changes in sea currents, etc.
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20-06-2021, 13:35
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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I seem to recall that there was a mini-ice age a few centuries ago. That certainly wasn’t the fault of man. The climate is quite capable of sudden changes, but fortunately it doesn’t happen as a regular occurrence.
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The Little Ice Age was a period from about 1300 to 1870 when Europe and North America experienced much colder winters than we do today. Paintings from the Little Ice Age show us what it was like.
There were two phases, the first of which ran from about 1300 to 1500. Then came a slightly warmer period in the 1500s, followed by the second phase when climate deteriorated substantially.
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https://fiveminutehistory.com/20-ama...ittle-ice-age/
Just as an aside. The 11th painting "Breaking the Ice by George Morland, 1792" in the above article has been a favourite one of mine for a long time.
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20-06-2021, 13:50
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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Look at the rates of temperate increase compared to any natural change in the past if you're really interested. . Its much, much faster and concides with the increase in CO2 levels over the last century ( not tens of thousands of years of past natural change)
I'm afraid is misinformation like yours, short term profiteering, and not wanting to face 'an unconvienient truth' that have caused us to pass the point of no return.
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Regardless of alleged rates of change, the extreme changes happened. There can be no disputing that.
At one time not so long ago, it was possible to grow grape vines in Norway. Nowadays only specially bred vines can grow as far north as SE England.
They can't claim Polar Bears are at risk from less ice, when they've somehow managed to get through periods of less or even too much ice.
Canada was pretty much all covered by thick ice(eg Laurentide Ice Sheet), it isn't nowadays. How, if not from Natural(ie not man-made) Global Climate Change?
There used to be claims about Acid Rain. They were (unsurprisingly) not only found to be false, but a large chunk of Acid Rain arose from natural sources(eg volcanic activity). Just as the melting of glaciers on Devon Island(largest uninhabited Island) is down to geothermal warming,
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20-06-2021, 14:06
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
We live on an "historical flood plain" now protected by 4m high dykes, but still unable to get flood insurance. But the map shows we shall be a seaside village if these predictions ever happen.
But we'll be a very cold place, as the Gulf Stream will be gone by then.
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20-06-2021, 16:41
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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I seem to recall that there was a mini-ice age a few centuries ago. That certainly wasn’t the fault of man. The climate is quite capable of sudden changes, but fortunately it doesn’t happen as a regular occurrence.
While the general consensus in the scientific community is that the warming of the planet is man made, we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that climate change can be due to other factors such as cyclical variations in solar radiation, variations in the orbit of the Earth, changes in sea currents, etc.
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Furthermore, all that man has done is to bring climate change forward by 150 years. Nothing we can do about the natural world cycles.
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20-06-2021, 18:28
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
I've put mooring cleats on the facia boards
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20-06-2021, 19:32
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
Looks like my Grandkids will have a shorter trip to the east coast.
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20-06-2021, 20:22
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
Lincs & Netherlands are toast.
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23-06-2021, 10:45
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
These Climate Crisis idiots always ignore simple facts.
That the Earth is 5 billion years old, and in that time we have had around 4/5 ice ages, and this is the major fact we are still in the tail end of the last ice age, and guess what this means, yes temperatures will rise, eventually we will hit the peak and then go back into an ice age, what will they blame that on when we enter the next ice age.
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23-06-2021, 13:09
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Re: Climate Change - sea level rises.
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These Climate Crisis idiots always ignore simple facts.
That the Earth is 5 billion years old, and in that time we have had around 4/5 ice ages, and this is the major fact we are still in the tail end of the last ice age, and guess what this means, yes temperatures will rise, eventually we will hit the peak and then go back into an ice age, what will they blame that on when we enter the next ice age.
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Spot on. Blame? Must be the Tories.
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