Britain outside the EU

[Sephiroth]

I won’t buy Frnch stuff.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Maggy

Where do you buy British from?

Clarkson's Farm Shop?

[Carth]

I wouldn't trust supermarkets . . just because something says 'British made' doesn't mean the ingredients are from Britain

[Sephiroth]

I trust Waitrose!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I trust Waitrose!

Waitrose Stem Ginger. Label states Packed in the UK.
Back of label says Chinese stem ginger in syrup. So is the ginger from China or is Chinese a variety? What about the syrup and the jar, where do they come from?
Co-op is very good at origin labelling - it often lists where all the ingredients come from and where the final product is made.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

That Macron & his ministers are behaving like Putin (as in threatening to cut off the electricity interconnect is best countered by diplomacy and whatever legal devices are at our disposal.

We should keep up the dialogue, especially in public, as much as possible so as to ridicule France even in the EU's eyes. As in "we are surprised that such a long standing ally and friend should stoop to this sort of provocative behaviour".

They really are beyond the pale.

Speaking of Putin, Christopher Steele claims Russia is at war with the UK, they interfered in the Scottish independence referendum and in the EU referendum and if the Scots get another shot they'll try and break us up again and yet no one says a word, why is this being ignored? Is it because a spat with France is easier?

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Waitrose Stem Ginger. Label states Packed in the UK.
Back of label says Chinese stem ginger in syrup. So is the ginger from China or is Chinese a variety? What about the syrup and the jar, where do they come from?
Co-op is very good at origin labelling - it often lists where all the ingredients come from and where the final product is made.

Outstanding review of those on the Waitrose website…

Variable quality of ginger balls

I buy these regularly, mainly for slicing thinly to put into lemon & ginger infusion. The majority of ginger balls in the last two jars purchased have been mainly hard and whiskery, not tender and moreish as in the past. Please review your supplier!

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Waitrose Stem Ginger. Label states Packed in the UK.
Back of label says Chinese stem ginger in syrup. So is the ginger from China or is Chinese a variety? What about the syrup and the jar, where do they come from?
Co-op is very good at origin labelling - it often lists where all the ingredients come from and where the final product is made.

I've gone and put the question to Waitrose. I expect obfuscation to my request will apply.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Outstanding review of those on the Waitrose website…

I don’t like the sound of the whiskers…

[Sephiroth]

To those Remainers who contradict my view that the EU (and if not the EU then France) wishes to punish the UK for leaving the poxy EU, here's the proof:

Paywall link and selected quote: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...t-says-france/

Britain must be punished for Brexit, says France
Brussels needs to make clear that 'leaving union is more damaging than remaining', says French PM in call for sanctions over fishing war

Britain must be shown that Brexit is "damaging", the French prime minister told Brussels as he called for support for tougher sanctions in the fish war.

In a major escalation, Jean Castex wrote to Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president, attempting to get EU allies to back a hardline stance against London.

In his letter to the Commission president, sent on Thursday, Mr Castex wrote: "It ... seems necessary for the European Union to show its full determination to obtain full compliance with the agreement by the United Kingdom and assert its rights by using the levers at its disposal in a firm, united and proportionate manner.

"It is essential to make clear to European public opinion that compliance with the commitments entered into is non-negotiable and that leaving the Union is more damaging than remaining in it."

If France (Government) is not the enemy, who is?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

To those Remainers who contradict my view that the EU (and if not the EU then France) wishes to punish the UK for leaving the poxy EU, here's the proof:

Paywall link and selected quote: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...t-says-france/

You're extrapolating the opinion of a campaigning French Prime Minister to be that of the EU.

The fact that Macron has had to put this in writing to the EU indicates the difference in views. Have you worked out why it's been leaked? To try and increase the idiot's electoral chances.

I'm sure the Telegraph and Johnson are lapping it up too, a useful distraction from increasing household costs for them.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

If France (Government) is not the enemy, who is?

We've done this one before. Russia, North Korea, China, Iran, Taliban, ISIS, etc.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

You're extrapolating the opinion of a campaigning French Prime Minister to be that of the EU.

The fact that Macron has had to put this in writing to the EU indicates the difference in views. Have you worked out why it's been leaked? To try and increase the idiot's electoral chances.

I'm sure the Telegraph and Johnson are lapping it up too, a useful distraction from increasing household costs for them.


We've done this one before. Russia, North Korea, China, Iran, Taliban, ISIS, etc.

A total distraction from you, Andrew.

My theme is that the EU and France, and definitely France (but no reasonable person would exclude the EU) want to punish the UK for daring to leave their hegemonistic union.

Your stipulation lists countries on the premise that France is NOT the enemy. Only Remainers would want to believe you whereas the evidence is starkly in front of you.

Most unlike the Telegraph to misquote someone/something about the E.U…

What the French PM said (not Macron) actually said: "It's necessary to show European public opinion that agreements have to be respected and are non negotiable, and that it's more detrimental to leave the union than to stay in it."

The article actually attributes the comment to a UK government source, framed to deliberately mislead their readers - not so much a misquote, more like gaslighting, but it already seems to have achieved its objective among it’s readership...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

A total distraction from you, Andrew.

My theme is that the EU and France, and definitely France (but no reasonable person would exclude the EU) want to punish the UK for daring to leave their hegemonistic union.

Your stipulation lists countries on the premise that France is NOT the enemy. Only Remainers would want to believe you whereas the evidence is starkly in front of you.

Hugh has proved that the Telegraph article is fake news. He has been more rigorous than others like me and you who actually believed it to be true! Our bad!

The fact that the UK and France are both NATO members should ably demonstrate we're not enemies. Doesn't mean we're not competitors, mind.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

You're extrapolating the opinion of a campaigning French Prime Minister to be that of the EU.

The fact that Macron has had to put this in writing to the EU indicates the difference in views. Have you worked out why it's been leaked? To try and increase the idiot's electoral chances.

I'm sure the Telegraph and Johnson are lapping it up too, a useful distraction from increasing household costs for them.


We've done this one before. Russia, North Korea, China, Iran, Taliban, ISIS, etc.

You mean Russia that interfered in the EU referendum and want to break up the UK through Scottish independence and intelligence people have gone as far as saying are actually at war with us and yet they're not the enemy, France is

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Hugh has proved that the Telegraph article is fake news. He has been more rigorous than others like me and you who actually believed it to be true! Our bad!

The fact that the UK and France are both NATO members should ably demonstrate we're not enemies. Doesn't mean we're not competitors, mind.

France isn't in NATO is it, well not fully

---------- Post added at 09:53 ---------- Previous post was at 09:51 ----------

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

To those Remainers who contradict my view that the EU (and if not the EU then France) wishes to punish the UK for leaving the poxy EU, here's the proof:

Paywall link and selected quote: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...t-says-france/




If France (Government) is not the enemy, who is?

How do they intend to punish us, by taking a big dump in all our waterways, by taking 4% of gdp, a bigger hit longterm hit than covid according to OBR or by ruining our farmers