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Old 26-01-2021, 13:52   #16
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

I completely fail to see what the Democrats think they're going to get out of this. The best thing to do would just let Trump dissolve away.

He's so toxic right now that he'll probably be bankrupt within a few years. The sooner he's gone and forgotten the sooner the US can move on.

This is not healing a divided nation as promised by Biden.
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Old 26-01-2021, 13:57   #17
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

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I completely fail to see what the Democrats think they're going to get out of this. The best thing to do would just let Trump dissolve away.

He's so toxic right now that he'll probably be bankrupt within a few years. The sooner he's gone and forgotten the sooner the US can move on.

This is not healing a divided nation as promised by Biden.
Political parties in the US don’t have the same level of central control as they do here. Biden couldn’t just phone up the dems in Congress and tell them to stop. Also, impeachment and trial are matters for the legislative branch and Americans love their separation of powers. If Biden lacked the authority within the party to stop it, he certainly lacks the authority as chief executive to do so.
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They impeached a sitting president. What follows in two weeks is the trial based on the impeachment. There is constitutional precedent for it, though if the Senate does convict him I expect it will end up in the Supreme Court.
There is no precedent for convicting any former president, there is for a judge or other low ranking federal official, who probably had financial constraints to take this to the Supreme Court, had they done so, would probably won, it is not Constitutional, it is irrelevant if they impeached him in the House of Representatives, the Senate lost it's jurisdiction the moment Trump's term ended and became a private citizen.
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If there is a conviction it'll certainly end up in the Supreme Court.
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Old 26-01-2021, 14:29   #20
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If there is a conviction it'll certainly end up in the Supreme Court.
There will not be, while Republicans were repulsed at the Capitol Riot, if they impeach one of their own, who just happened to garner 75,000,000 votes, beating any other Republican sitting president, they would be committing political suicide, while I do think a handful of GOP Senators will vote to convict, it will be nowhere near the 17 required to reach the super majority to convict.

This is just another embarrassing move by the Democrats, a political party that has lost it's way.

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Waste of time impeachment isn’t about accountability

It’s about demands from vengeance from the radical left

And a new “show” for the “Political Entertainment Industry”
Democrats are going to struggle getting 17 Republicans on their side.
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Old 26-01-2021, 14:32   #21
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If there is a conviction it'll certainly end up in the Supreme Court.
And I'll end up in Tesco's Champagne section.

But on a more serious note, I agree with others that it's not a good strategical move for the Democrats. Let the Republican Party fight amongst themselves and let the Democrats focus on delivering on their agenda.
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Old 26-01-2021, 14:48   #22
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

More GOP Senator Feedback on impeachment:

Republican Senator, Bill Hagerty:

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My Democrat colleagues have decided that pursuing a trial against a former President is of greater importance than helping those struggling right now as we battle a pandemic and an associated economic recession— Beltway games if you ask me. They should check their priorities!
Republican Senator, Ron Johnson:

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I will work with other like-minded Republican senators to challenge the constitutionality of this vindictive #impeachment trial before it begins.
Republican Senator, Roger Wicker:

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I will vote to dismiss this article of impeachment against President Trump.
Republican Senator, Rand Paul:

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I object to this unconstitutional sham of an “impeachment” trial and I will force a vote on whether the Senate can hold a trial of a private citizen.
Republican Senator, Rick Scott:

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This impeachment is nothing more than political theater. The Democrats are confusing the U.S. Capitol, where we should be helping the American people, with another big white building in DC that specializes in theater and shows…. the Kennedy Center. It's time to get back to work.
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

Republican bigots... most are two faced bum lickers ... Trump needs to be taught a lesson period.
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Old 26-01-2021, 15:51   #24
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

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More GOP Senator Feedback on impeachment:

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So that’s 5 of 50 declared. 45 still to declare, and only 17 of them need to vote with the democrats to convict. Thinking again about this I can see why the dems are going for it now - 17 Republicans is indeed a tall order, but it may be achievable while the scars of the insurrection are still visible.
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So that’s 5 of 50 declared. 45 still to declare, and only 17 of them need to vote with the democrats to convict. Thinking again about this I can see why the dems are going for it now - 17 Republicans is indeed a tall order, but it may be achievable while the scars of the insurrection are still visible.
Nope it will not happen and Chris - don't do that - I haven't just got ones that have declared at all - That is a few selection of GOP Senators, more have expressed disdain at this unconstitutional impeachment.
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Old 26-01-2021, 16:02   #26
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

The second impeachment has already happened hasn't it, as that can only be done to a sitting President?

We're now looking at the Senate trial but I do think that 17 Republicans is a tough ask.
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

It's a divisive mistake. And I don't like Trump.

If he's incited riot, then criminal investigation should follow.
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The second impeachment has already happened hasn't it, as that can only be done to a sitting President?

We're now looking at the Senate trial but I do think that 17 Republicans is a tough ask.
yes he was impeached while president it just trial starting with him as ex president and see Rudy Giuliani is getting sued for $1.3 Billion for false claim about Dominion Voting Systems about vote fraud

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/25/p...ani/index.html
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*yes he was impeached while president it just trial starting with him as ex president and see Rudy Giuliani is getting sued for $1.3 Billion for false claim about Dominion Voting Systems about vote fraud

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/25/p...ani/index.html
Rudy litigation case has nothing to with this topic. Stay on topic.

* A trial in which the Supreme Court Chief Justice is himself, is refusing to reside, probably because he knows it's damn well unconstitutional. Again, it is irrelevant that while he was in office he was the sitting president when they voted to impeach him, once his term ended, yes, ended, he did not resign, the Senate lacked Constitutional Jurisdiction to try a former president-now private citizen.

If we are going to start precedents for impeachment proceedings against former presidents, let's start with Bush and Obama for the middle east crisis that left a vacuum for Isis to thrive and flourish.
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Re: Trump impeachment: Senate trial to start

Its hard to see this actually going anywhere.
I'm sure most involved wish Trump would just fade away.
Im sure hes loving still being in the limelight, whatever the reason.
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