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Old 12-06-2018, 06:38   #286
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Re: [Updated]U.S hold diplomatic Summit with North Korea

They’re about to sign something. Has Kim agreed to get rid of his nuclear weapons?! If so in return for what?
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Finally, history is made... Way to go Mr President..



Like you said in one of your latest tweets, forget about the haters and losers.
I think he prefers to be called leader of the workers party, I'm sure he'll appreciate the sentiment regardless though
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:35   #288
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Re: [Updated]U.S hold diplomatic Summit with North Korea

Document signed what we don’t know what’s in it

---------- Post added at 07:35 ---------- Previous post was at 06:51 ----------

Complete denuclearisation with security assurances. If true (and it happens) then that’s a big achievement for Trump and probably the biggest he’ll have,

Not sure why North Korea have agreed though. This massive change of heart is bizarre. Once the nukes have gone then does Kim really trust the assurances of America that he’ll be safe?
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Re: [Updated]U.S hold diplomatic Summit with North Korea

It’s great that this could be happening.

However, don’t forget one of them has previous in leaving treaties he doesn’t like...
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Re: [Updated]U.S hold diplomatic Summit with North Korea

I might have oversold it. The document just says they should 'work' towards denuclearisation. No details on what that would mean, how to get there or what the 'security assurances' will be.

Someone pointed out how common such agreement are with NK so we'll have to wait and see how this develops: https://www.armscontrolwonk.com/arch...he-precedents/

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Re: [Updated]U.S hold diplomatic Summit with North Korea

They might just be signing an agreement about mobile libraries for all we know. A bit meaningless as N Korea have reneged on previous treaties. Kim just fancies a day in the limelight and tv pics to cheer up the starving peasants back home. Donald just likes being on tv. Bet he's set his legendary Tivo for it.

2 tin pot dictators with the same hairdresser, no wonder they get on well....
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Re: [Updated]U.S hold diplomatic Summit with North Korea

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They might just be signing an agreement about mobile libraries for all we know. A bit meaningless as N Korea have reneged on previous treaties. Kim just fancies a day in the limelight and tv pics to cheer up the starving peasants back home. Donald just likes being on tv. Bet he's set his legendary Tivo for it.

2 tin pot dictators with the same hairdresser, no wonder they get on well....
You're just bitter and envious because Obama never signed a deal for mobile libraries with North Korea. Give them both the Noble Peace Prize immediately to shut up all the doubters and losers!
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Re: [Updated]U.S hold diplomatic Summit with North Korea

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They might just be signing an agreement about mobile libraries for all we know. A bit meaningless as N Korea have reneged on previous treaties. Kim just fancies a day in the limelight and tv pics to cheer up the starving peasants back home. Donald just likes being on tv. Bet he's set his legendary Tivo for it.

2 tin pot dictators with the same hairdresser, no wonder they get on well....
No, what's meaningless is most of your negative crap.
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Re: [Updated]U.S hold diplomatic Summit with North Korea

On this initiative I'm giving Trump the benefit of the doubt and am hopeful that something comes of it. I think the two leaders are well-matched and both have strong motives to strike a deal. Time will tell but I'm 60/40 on a successful outcome i.e., denuclearisation of North Korea.
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On this initiative I'm giving Trump the benefit of the doubt and am hopeful that something comes of it. I think the two leaders are well-matched and both have strong motives to strike a deal. Time will tell but I'm 60/40 on a successful outcome i.e., denuclearisation of North Korea.
Yes time will tell whether this day will mark a sea change in a good many things Andrew as one has to be hopeful but no more then that currently.
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On this initiative I'm giving Trump the benefit of the doubt and am hopeful that something comes of it. I think the two leaders are well-matched and both have strong motives to strike a deal. Time will tell but I'm 60/40 on a successful outcome i.e., denuclearisation of North Korea.
He thought he had an agreement with the Canadian PM, that didn't last long !

I'm sure Kim is much more trustworthy. If he didn't have nuclear weapons, we'd have done our 'regime change' thing long before now. They have worked for Kim, he's not going to give them up. The agreement is very vague and doesn't really commit anyone to anything, it's all about tv pictures ensuring these 2 remain in power.
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Re: [Updated]U.S hold diplomatic Summit with North Korea

During his press conference, Trump described the joint military exercises with South Korea as "provocative" to North Korea. Previously, both South Korea and the US have described the drills as "defensive" and "routine", so by stating that the exercises are a "provocation", Trump could also be setting himself, and the US military, up for difficulties if the they attempts to resume the drills in the future if the talks break down.

Many analysts consider the halting of the military exercises as a huge concession from the US.
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North Korea to scrap the idea of nukes, receive constant aid from the US and the South, build relations and gradually become part of this world.

Too much?
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Not if it actually works.
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Re: [Updated]U.S hold diplomatic Summit with North Korea

Here is the meat of the Joint Statement.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...091218916.html
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President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) held a first, historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018.

President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

Convinced that the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:

The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.
The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.

Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

Having acknowledged that the U.S.-DPRK summit — the first in history — was an epochal event of great significance in overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening up of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulations in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations, led by the U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the U.S.-DPRK summit.
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