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Old 29-10-2018, 19:27   #931
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My apologies. It's just that this:

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Inaction from law enforcement agencies, afraid of being labelled racist, has led to these Asians behaving like pack animals. It really has to stop
..contains the word 'has' which appears to indicate the present, as opposed to 'had'.
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Old 29-10-2018, 19:34   #932
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Is anyone going to open a thread about the abuse of children by the Catholic church? This seems an equally disturbing problem, maybe more so ..

One in 50 priests is a paedophile: Pope Francis says child abuse is 'leprosy' infecting the Catholic Church
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Old 29-10-2018, 20:54   #933
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Is anyone going to open a thread about the abuse of children by the Catholic church? This seems an equally disturbing problem, maybe more so ..

One in 50 priests is a paedophile: Pope Francis says child abuse is 'leprosy' infecting the Catholic Church
Nothing to stop you opening one if you feel strongly enough about it, that would be a much better option than trying to deflect attention away from a discussion regarding the prevelance of child sex abuse cases by Asian gangs at the moment.

Any group of communities who are indulging in paedophilic activities is worthy of attention and discussion, be it based on ethnicity, religion, sport etc.
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Old 29-10-2018, 21:21   #934
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Nothing to stop you opening one if you feel strongly enough about it, that would be a much better option than trying to deflect attention away from a discussion regarding the prevelance of child sex abuse cases by Asian gangs at the moment.

Any group of communities who are indulging in paedophilic activities is worthy of attention and discussion, be it based on ethnicity, religion, sport etc.
You are correct, the actions of this part of our society warrants serious debate .. as does the issue of paedophile priests.

Let me ask this: how many priests have gone to jail and how many mugshots of white Catholic men do you see in the media?

While we are here, do you think using the specific term "Asians" is warranted? The term describes a rather large part of the world:

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Nothing to stop you opening one if you feel strongly enough about it, that would be a much better option than trying to deflect attention away from a discussion regarding the prevelance of child sex abuse cases by Asian gangs at the moment.

Any group of communities who are indulging in paedophilic activities is worthy of attention and discussion, be it based on ethnicity, religion, sport etc.
On that note, it would appear that the vast majority of grooming gangs were Asian (around 75%), and those who operated paedophilia rings were all White.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8101941.html
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Mr Rafiq told Sky News: “I’m from the heart of where one of the biggest high-profile cases has happened over the last few years, and I’m saying it’s very important that we do talk about it because the problem won’t go away.

“We didn’t want there to be a pattern of people from our ethnic demographic carrying out these attacks. But unfortunately we were proven wrong.”

“British white men they tend to work individually. They tend to work online where they groom and they are the majority of perpetrators.

“When it comes to Asian men or Pakistani men they tend to do it in g
roups.”

The National Crime Agency’s Child Exploitation and Online Protection Command (CEOP) identifies two types of group-based child abuse.

It says in “Type 1” offenders work in groups such as grooming gangs to target victims based on vulnerability, while “Type 2” offenders form paedophile rings to carry out abuse because of a specific sexual interest in children.

CEOP research published in 2012 states 85 per cent of offenders found guilty of sexual activity with a minor in 2011 were white.

Another CEOP study released the following year found 75 per cent of offenders in grooming-gang cases were from Asian backgrounds, while 100 per cent in paedophile rings were white.
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Old 29-10-2018, 22:09   #936
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On that note, it would appear that the vast majority of grooming gangs were Asian (around 75%), and those who operated paedophilia rings were all White.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8101941.html
I hesitated to post results from that study earlier as it was at least 6 years old and many, if not all, the Asian lead grooming and rape gangs hadn’t come to light then.

Which makes the findings in the report impotent to say the say the least.
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Old 29-10-2018, 22:32   #937
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty

No point in trying to use statistics because although in the newest Rotherham case, seven were convicted, -
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One of the victims told a trial at Sheffield Crown Court how she had sex with 'at least 100 Asian men' by the time she was 16.
There are THOUSANDS of other Muslim men who are avoiding prosecution and are not in any figures. About time they were included in order to get a sense of the TRUE picture.




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Old 29-10-2018, 23:02   #938
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You are correct, the actions of this part of our society warrants serious debate .. as does the issue of paedophile priests.

Let me ask this: how many priests have gone to jail and how many mugshots of white Catholic men do you see in the media?

While we are here, do you think using the specific term "Asians" is warranted? The term describes a rather large part of the world:

Asian is used as a generic term, in this country it is usually a collective term for Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis etc. You're quite right though, Chinese people for example, are 'Asian' too.

There are so many different types of them living over here now that it would be impossible to list them all, but in discussions about them in relation to child sex abuse, perhaps they should be reffered to as Pakistanis as these appear to be the main culprits of this horrible crime within the Asian community??
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Old 29-10-2018, 23:28   #939
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Asian is used as a generic term, in this country it is usually a collective term for Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis etc. You're quite right though, Chinese people for example, are 'Asian' too.

There are so many different types of them living over here now that it would be impossible to list them all, but in discussions about them in relation to child sex abuse, perhaps they should be reffered to as Pakistanis as these appear to be the main culprits of this horrible crime within the Asian community??
“Asian” is typically generically used for the sub-content.

Far East generically is oriental
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Old 29-10-2018, 23:46   #940
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty

08-05-2012, 19:54 just looked at date of original post - over six years ago

lots of the same thing - lots of same common factor
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Asian is used as a generic term, in this country it is usually a collective term for Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis etc. You're quite right though, Chinese people for example, are 'Asian' too.

There are so many different types of them living over here now that it would be impossible to list them all, but in discussions about them in relation to child sex abuse, perhaps they should be reffered to as Pakistanis as these appear to be the main culprits of this horrible crime within the Asian community??
Still the biggest joint attribute is being a Muslim. There appears to have been more non-Asians that are Muslim than Asians who aren't Muslim.

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Bristol - Some 13 Somali men were jailed for more than a total of more than 100 years after they were convicted in 2014 of running an inner city sex ring.Victims as young as 13 were preyed upon, sexually abused and trafficked across Bristol to be passed around the men's friends for money.
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Asian is used as a generic term, in this country it is usually a collective term for Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis etc. You're quite right though, Chinese people for example, are 'Asian' too.

There are so many different types of them living over here now that it would be impossible to list them all, but in discussions about them in relation to child sex abuse, perhaps they should be reffered to as Pakistanis as these appear to be the main culprits of this horrible crime within the Asian community??
I agree. Members of the British Pakistani community would be more accurate ..

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Is anyone going to open a thread about the abuse of children by the Catholic church? This seems an equally disturbing problem, maybe more so ..

One in 50 priests is a paedophile: Pope Francis says child abuse is 'leprosy' infecting the Catholic Church
BTW, there is nothing "fake" about child sex abuse in the Catholic church ... although it may be uncomfortable for some to hear.
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Still the biggest joint attribute is being a Muslim. There appears to have been more non-Asians that are Muslim than Asians who aren't Muslim.

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Maybe being Muslim is the common denominator then as opposed to being asian/Pakistani?
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Maybe being Muslim is the common denominator then as opposed to being asian/Pakistani?
The common denominator is that they’re all male. And the girls are all vulnerable from the lower end of society.

There is a further indicator that they are mainly from Pakistani origin.

I don’t think religion plays into it. The fact that they are of Pakistani origin would automatically make them Muslim.
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The common denominator is that they’re all male. And the girls are all vulnerable from the lower end of society.

There is a further indicator that they are mainly from Pakistani origin.

I don’t think religion plays into it. The fact that they are of Pakistani origin would automatically make them Muslim.
It's less to do with them being Muslim.

When I lived in Leicester my ex warned me to never take her daughters to certain parts of the city that had mainly Pakistani residents. She made it her mission to make sure the girls kept away from Pakistani gangs too.
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