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Old 23-10-2018, 20:04   #916
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But are there any Celtic British (natives) left.


Do not like it when the black Americans call their selves African Americans (just call your selves American).
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But are there any Celtic British (natives) left.


Do not like it when the black Americans call their selves African Americans (just call your selves American).
Me, my father/ grandfather were Scottish, great grandfather was Irish.

Iím 1st generation English. I donít consider myself Scottish or Irish and have no affinity to either.
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All this emphasis on background, ethnic origin and colour just creases me up! For heaven's sake, we are all people, so what difference does it make? The more we play it up, the more the racists and other extremists grab hold of it as the spark for another campaign of intimidation and violence.

The sooner this stops being an issue and we can all treat each other according to our behaviour, the better.
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The sooner this stops being an issue and we can all treat each other according to our behaviour, the better.
Spot on, by the time (at latest) that people reach their teenage years they should know the difference between right & wrong, good & bad behaviour, and be well on the way to developing morals that will guide them through life.

The problem as I see it, is that some countries have a different view on various things that are perceived as 'right & wrong', and a different moralistic attitude towards the way life is lived and how others are treated.

I'm afraid Religion plays a big part in this, history is rife with examples of 'my God is bigger than your God' and the conflicts that follow.

It's also fair to say that if your early years are governed by bad parents and poor schooling, you may well pick up the wrong outlook on life and find you can't (or won't) fit into society.
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All this emphasis on background, ethnic origin and colour just creases me up! For heaven's sake, we are all people, so what difference does it make?
Certain crimes seem to be more prevalent in certain communities. That cannot and should not be ignored.
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Certain crimes seem to be more prevalent in certain communities. That cannot and should not be ignored.
Agreed.

Political correctness would have us believe that a person's race etc is always irrelevant in every situation, but this is simply not true.

If relevant, to give them chance to make any adjustments in the usual service for me, I mention that I have a disability. Fairly often remarks such as "that's irrelevant" or "we don't treat disabled people any differently, we're not allowed to" are made. I then have to explain that always treating everybody the same is not equality and is against the law.

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Agreed.

Political correctness would have us believe that a person's race etc is always irrelevant in every situation, but this is simply not true.

If relevant, to give them chance to make any adjustments in the usual service for me, I mention that I have a disability. Fairly often remarks such as "that's irrelevant" or "we don't treat disabled people any differently, we're not allowed to" are made. I then have to explain that always treating everybody the same is not equality and is against the law.
There is still a problem when the diversity side is favoured over the equality side.
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Old 26-10-2018, 15:21   #923
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In some cases to do so is inappropriate, in others it's the correct thing to do.
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Old 26-10-2018, 21:59   #924
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty

As i’ve Said before I agree there is an issue with the British Pakistani/ Asian part of the population.

Is there an equal problem with the white catholic clergy part of the population?

Is there an equal problem just with white men, is the real issue just with certain men of any nationality/ religion?

Is the common theme actually just vulnerable children and a failure by society to protect them.

Is it the real scandal just ignoring children at lower end of society, and the establishment allowing them to be abused and not caring?

How many children from upper to middle class backgrounds were abused?

Isn’t the case that evil men of any background, race or religion will prey on vulnerable children, and when those children are ignored by society and allowed to be abused by the authorities by those that are supposed to be protecting them.

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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty

Seven men have been found guilty of grooming and abusing young girls in Rotherham, including one who was made to have sex with "at least 100 Asian men" by the time she was 16.



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Good heavens Taf, when & where will it all end?

Inaction from law enforcement agencies, afraid of being labelled racist, has led to these Asians behaving like pack animals. It really has to stop.

It really does appear to be the case that the drive for racial equality has led to the pendulum swinging too far the other way when they believe that they can rape underage girls without impunity.
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Good heavens Taf, when & where will it all end?

Inaction from law enforcement agencies, afraid of being labelled racist, has led to these Asians behaving like pack animals. It really has to stop.

It really does appear to be the case that the drive for racial equality has led to the pendulum swinging too far the other way when they believe that they can rape underage girls without impunity.
The issue was recognised a number of years ago, and the investigations that started in 2014 are bearing fruit, and will continue to do do, hopefully.

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It began in 2014 after a report found at least 1,400 children in Rotherham were the victims of abuse between 1997 and 2013.

It is run by the NCA, which is working with 296 alleged victims, has identified 151 suspects and is running 22 ongoing investigations.

More than 150 officers work on the operation and there are plans to recruit another 100.
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Good heavens Taf, when & where will it all end?

Inaction from law enforcement agencies, afraid of being labelled racist, has led to these Asians behaving like pack animals. It really has to stop.

It really does appear to be the case that the drive for racial equality has led to the pendulum swinging too far the other way when they believe that they can rape underage girls without impunity.
If the police, social services and others were afraid of being prosecuted for being racist when all they are doing is responding to complaints and protecting vulnerable people, they need to attend some training courses on what racial discrimination legislation is all about.
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Inaction? Really? Did you realise the post before yours is one featuring a court case where they were found guilty?
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Inaction? Really? Did you realise the post before yours is one featuring a court case where they were found guilty?
I meant in the past, thankfully they now seem to be taking a more common sense approach and these historical crimes are now being dealt with after many years.
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