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Old 17-02-2020, 00:01   #1
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Tyson Fury Vs Deontay Wilder 2

I’m told the PPV in the UK will be £25 on BT sport box office but the German company who have purchased the rights to the fight are only charging 20 euros.

Is this right?

In terms of the fight, what a spectacle. The best 2 heavy weights in the world putting it all on the line again.
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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Deontay Wilder 2

Different countries can charge different prices as BT sport box office obviously think they can get away with charging a fiver more in good old Blighty.

l will watch it a week later when it appears on their normal channels.

Fury to win on points IMO.
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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Deontay Wilder 2

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I’m told the PPV in the UK will be £25 on BT sport box office but the German company who have purchased the rights to the fight are only charging 20 euros.

Is this right?

In terms of the fight, what a spectacle. The best 2 heavy weights in the world putting it all on the line again.
Amazing what some will pay. The boxers/promoters are laughing all the way to the bank, whilst planning their next pay per view rematch. Boxing is going the way of wrestling, pre-determined outcomes for max profit all round.
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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Deontay Wilder 2

I've just started Fury's audiobook. The guy has been an inspiration to me, really hope he wins.
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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Deontay Wilder 2

Did you watch the documentary BT Sport Fury's Resurrection.
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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Deontay Wilder 2

It’s 100 dollars to watch the PPV in the USA


Biggest heavy weight fight in 20 years, well worth £25
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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Deontay Wilder 2

It's not even close to being the biggest heavyweight fight in 20 years opinionated maybe but even then, just to start you off, Tyson and Lewis was 2003 and I hazard a guess this was top of any boxing fans list. Factually, Joshua vs Klitschko sold more in the UK than Fury-Wilder 1 did in both the UK and US. The US audience for that fight was also higher than Wilder's own numbers domestically. In fact, the last 4 Joshua fights alone have been bigger draws than Wilders and Fury's last four, five, six or ten for that matter. Joshua and Usyk in the UK or even the US is massively bigger.

The fact that anyone could consider this 'The biggest' anything is exactly why boxing took a massive dump in the UK right after Haye/Harrison. Media promotion convincing people that this is some 'Clash of the titans' and not billing it as it is. Fury with a single high profile win in a diabolical 'fight' with Klitschko and Wilder, with two wins against a 40 year old Luis Ortiz and the biggest name on his resume ironically being Fury.

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This, they've already signed the trilogy. Fury's been tuning up on absolute bums and Wilder is absolutely petrified of going near anyone with a punch, hence why Whyte, Parker, Rivas, Povetkin and others can't get a look in.

They very literally handpicked each other because Wilder like the rest of the world knows that Fury throws pillows for punches and Fury cherry picked Wilder because he like the rest of the world has seen, is that Wilder is a fairly horrible boxer that sits on a single punch.

The best thing that could come out of this is Wilder pancaking Fury and being forced to take on his Mandatory, Whyte. Whyte has the potential to put an end to Wilder and finally free the stranglehold these two nuggets have on the heavyweight division at the minute.

As for this actual fight,

Fury evidently isn't winning on points. Fury's entire career is based upon being able to allude his opponent and generally fighting backwards, the idea he's moved away from it to gain some power is silly. It either hasn't happened and is a trick to throw Wilder off or it has happened and he'll come in like a raging bull and get knocked out swiftly. The rematch favours Wilder. He's seen everything Fury has on offer and still decked him twice. I expect Wilder to be more aggressive and headhunt Fury from the offset.

If Fury gets put down early, he's done. On the fluke scenario that Fury either gets a points decision in the US or even flukier, scores a knockout then he really has to look at Joshua in Vegas or New York. A Joshua coming forward with no regard for Fury's non-power and more than capable of boxing whilst landing absolute bombs is a stylistic nightmare for Fury.

Reality however is that if Fury wins, a third fight can be sanctioned immediately, however if Wilder wins, then as above he'll be forced to fight a mandatory which at present is Whyte or vacate the title. Either way Wilder winning can sort of get the division moving again.

My pick: Wilder. Who I want to win? Wilder.
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Didn’t realise Eddie Hearn used this forum

What a complete load of biased nonsense
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Didn’t realise Eddie Hearn used this forum

What a complete load of biased nonsense
Nah Adzii has hit the nail on the head as Lennox Lewis and Iron Mike would have eat these for breakfast and his analysis of the heavyweight scene currently is right as well.
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What a complete load of biased nonsense
Where's the nonsense. Every single piece of it was solid fact. The biggest Heavyweight fight over the past 20 years was Lewis and Tyson. It was one of the most anticipated clashes in boxing history nevermind at heavyweight. The second part. Again fact. Joshua/Wlad outsold Wilder/Fury worldwide in just the UK alone. His previous four fights also outsold this same fight, again fact. To be honest. Haye and Bellew outdid them. Speaking of Haye, his fight with Wlad was the most anticipated since Tyson and Lewis. Neither Fury or Wilder have the fan base you seem to think they do. That was Wilders first ever PPV fight. That tells you a lot about a guy that's been Champion for the best part of 5 years and with a 40 something fight record.

On the analysis side. Wladimir is Fury's biggest win to date. Fact, its indisputable. Wilders biggest win to date is a 40 year old Luis Ortiz whom by many was severely overrated, again fact. Two guys with 30 and 40 something records but barely a handful of legitimate talented opponents between them. Fury's spent 12 months fighting a German taxi driver and a guy no one has heard of, scraping a UD from the latter pouring of blood. Wilder on the other hand ducked both Joshua and Whyte in the same year in favour of a rematch against the same 40 year old he'd taken out the year before. He did this in favour of preserving the Fury rematch. Very literally cherry picking opponents as did Fury when he took on two bums back to back. They both very literally have no other significant fighters on their resume.


Like I said. These two are holding up an entire division. Whytes been waiting two years. Parker gets another crack. Pulev gets a go at Joshua. Usyk gets a go at Joshua. The difference is. Usyk, Whyte, Joshua, Pulev, Povetkin and Co are all willing to fight each other. Fury is Warren's top draw, Wilders sacking promoters that dare to try set up fights with your Joshua's, Parkers or Whytes. Turning down the most lucrative deal of your career because he didn't like the idea of having to fight either of them.

I did like the Hearn bit though, but no. I like to see prime boxing. Not cherry picked matches. The latter is the reason the UFC shot off. All the top guys fighting each other every single month. On the same note we could drag Warren into it. Notorious for mismanaging fighters.

Amir Khan, Kell Brook, Anthony Crolla, Ricky Hatton. In fact the guy managed to make the same mistake twice regarding Hatton and Brook. Two welterweights with super padded records and world titles only to be fed to P4P #1 fighters in Golovkin and Mayweather. To then follow that up with equally stupid fights with Pacquiao and Spence. Essentially destroying the careers of both fighters in two fights. Two 30 something undefeated fighters who'd never left their own back yard got obliterated as they tried to step from domestic to elite level. Who'd seen that coming? Say what you want about the snake Hearn but he knows how to market his fighters on a completely different level to Warren.
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Re: Tyson Fury Vs Deontay Wilder 2

Something feels very off with Fury.

The change of trainer 7 weeks before a fight. Possibly hasn't worked out as planned.
Claims his cut reopened numerous times in sparring, I know this to be false however - private source
Potentially knocked down or out in sparring - same source
Whispers of an ankle injury from a few sources. - Likely a rumour on the same level as a TMZ post. In plain words, probably false.

Going out on a limb and just speculating he was hungover.



Gerald Washington and Charles Martin are on the undercard as an IBF title eliminator as unbelievable as that sounds. Joshua holds the IBF belt and these two are about as useful as each other. Joshua put Martin away once before without so much as getting into any sort of pace. Audley Harrison would struggle to give this lad a win. Gerald Washington is equally as rubbish. There's no way they can stick Joshua on the winner of this down the line. It doesn't matter how you promote it, you couldn't sell it. Assuming Joshua still holds it. Pulev doesn't do much for me. Usyk could be tricky for Joshua, an exception talent and P4P #2 behind Lomachenko. The only issue is his stature. He's a cruiserweight making the Holyfield and Haye move for a record title. Holyfield didn't need to navigate guys massively out sizing him as much as Haye did and we all know how that ended for Haye. The accumulation of weight in his second stint tore him apart from the inside and the first run was cut off by a Klitschko that massively outsized him. That's the issue Usyk runs into with guys the size of Joshua and Fury.
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The omens are not good for Fury adzii.
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Something feels very off with Fury.

The change of trainer 7 weeks before a fight. Possibly hasn't worked out as planned.
Claims his cut reopened numerous times in sparring, I know this to be false however - private source
Potentially knocked down or out in sparring - same source
Whispers of an ankle injury from a few sources. - Likely a rumour on the same level as a TMZ post. In plain words, probably false.

Going out on a limb and just speculating he was hungover.



Gerald Washington and Charles Martin are on the undercard as an IBF title eliminator as unbelievable as that sounds. Joshua holds the IBF belt and these two are about as useful as each other. Joshua put Martin away once before without so much as getting into any sort of pace. Audley Harrison would struggle to give this lad a win. Gerald Washington is equally as rubbish. There's no way they can stick Joshua on the winner of this down the line. It doesn't matter how you promote it, you couldn't sell it. Assuming Joshua still holds it. Pulev doesn't do much for me. Usyk could be tricky for Joshua, an exception talent and P4P #2 behind Lomachenko. The only issue is his stature. He's a cruiserweight making the Holyfield and Haye move for a record title. Holyfield didn't need to navigate guys massively out sizing him as much as Haye did and we all know how that ended for Haye. The accumulation of weight in his second stint tore him apart from the inside and the first run was cut off by a Klitschko that massively outsized him. That's the issue Usyk runs into with guys the size of Joshua and Fury.
He's pencilled in to take his dive and massive pay off in the 5th round
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I’m told the PPV in the UK will be £25 on BT sport box office but the German company who have purchased the rights to the fight are only charging 20 euros.

Is this right?

In terms of the fight, what a spectacle. The best 2 heavy weights in the world putting it all on the line again.
I was meant to answer this and forgot. DAZN are the provider for the fight outside of the mainstream territories. It's 13 quid or so or less by country served and isn't a box office PPV, it's a subscription similar to Netflix but for sports, more closely related to box nation. It's a UK based company and is actively looking for the rights to the UK market too, but until they have the capital to take a shot at Sky or BT it's just a waiting game.

I have a sub to it but it's involved a Canadian friend and a few hoops to jump through. Even so I can't use it tonight because they only secured European rights.

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/...ly-switzerland
List: https://old.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comm...here_to_watch/

FITE Network is another popular streaming service.


Build up fights for BT Sports subscribers:

Jimmy Crute vs. Michał Oleksiejczuk UFC FN 168
Karolina Kowalkiewicz vs. Yan Xiaonan UFC FN 168
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Emanuel Navarrete vs. Jeo Santisima BT Sports Box Office.
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