General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019) - Page 133

cheekyangus · 05-10-2019, 09:41

I suspect Arts remains high in the guide is because they want Sky branded channels to remain prominent. And it's a bit of a prestige channel, they want to be seen "Supporting the Arts".

Given Sky Crime is new they won't know for sure how popular it will be so they aren't going to give it too good a slot. Especially as other true crime genre channels have had mixed fortunes.

Sky Two is supposedly the channel that Sky Comedy will be replacing early next year, so they probably decided to have it the lowest of their Pay channels (not including +1s). All their Pay channels got moved above their Free To Air channels despite Challenge and Pick being their 3rd and top rated entertainment channels respectively (Sky1 is 2nd and Witness is 4th). I'm using the August BARB ratings for that, they probably fluctuate positions a bit.

Sky Arts is now much closer to its HD channel than it was, the HD channel moved up about 50 numbers. And those who have the HD version in their package can always use the "Press Blue To Watch In HD".

If Sky Crime is a flop I can see Sky Comedy being switched into that slot. There aren't any Weekly ratings for Sky Crime on the BARB website at the time I type this.

SonicMaster · 06-10-2019, 08:59

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus

Well 5 MTV channels got moved down onto Mix tier and 2 to Fun tier on the 1st October when all the number changes happened.

I don't think that sort of action could have been done without some agreement being made. It's just not been made public.

Most agreements don't get made public unless they can't come to an agreement. It's usually just the Sky renewal that regularly gets announced.

Yet still no MTV Classic on Virgin Media in the UK.

VH1 still hasn't been moved to the Entertainment genre either.

Paramount Network continues in SD on 188 when every customer can view Paramount Network HD on 187.

The relationship between Viacom and Virgin Media is a strange one.

cheekyangus · 06-10-2019, 09:34

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster

Yet still no MTV Classic on Virgin Media in the UK.

VH1 still hasn't been moved to the Entertainment genre either.

Paramount Network continues in SD on 188 when every customer can view Paramount Network HD on 187.

The relationship between Viacom and Virgin Media is a strange one.

There was a delay between the Sky deal being announced and any obvious change too. The EPG changes they put on hold until Sky Crime was due to launch.

We don't know when the Discovery changes were agreed. Quest was in a similar position to Paramount regards HD version being available to all.

Only Sky agreements seem to get press releases every time they are agreed/renewed.

Media Boy UK · 06-10-2019, 18:09

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus

There was a delay between the Sky deal being announced and any obvious change too. The EPG changes they put on hold until Sky Crime was due to launch.

We don't know when the Discovery changes were agreed. Quest was in a similar position to Paramount regards HD version being available to all.

Only Sky agreements seem to get press releases every time they are agreed/renewed.

Base on Discovery moves this past week we feel if Viacom have ask Virgin Media to move their channels it may move as followed:

105. Channel 5 HD
132. Comedy Central HD
133. Comedy Central Extra
134. MTV HD
150. Channel 5 +1
151. 5 USA
152. 5STAR
153. 5SELECT
154. 5Spike
155. Paramount Network HD
181. VH1
182. BET
183. Comedy Central +1
184. Comedy Central Extra +1
185. MTV +1
186. 5 USA +1
187. 5STAR +1
188. 5Spike +1

310. MTV MUSIC
311. MTV MUSIC +1
312. MTV HITS
313. MTV BASE
314. Club MTV
315. MTV ROCKS
316. MTV Live HD
317. MTV CLASSIC
318. MTV OMG

712. Nickelodeon HD
713. Nick +1
714. Nick Jr. HD
715. Nick Jr. +1
716. Nick Jr Too
717. Nicktoons

855. Channel 5 AD

cheekyangus · 06-10-2019, 19:26

Certainly plausible given the recent changes by other broadcasters. I think it will be somewhere between what happened with Sky and what happened with Discovery. Mainly because the talks obviously didn't go particularly well because that Viacom website surfaced.

I think Channel 5 and Paramount will go HD-only, as the HD versions are available on the same packs as the SD ones, but the others will be HD/SD with a demotion of +1s like Sky. Also like Sky, I don't think any of the missing channels will arrive, so no missing +1s or MTV Classic.

Media Boy UK · 06-10-2019, 19:30

Forum Box says an previously flagged as "Movies" has been change to "Lifestyle".

The only Lifestyle Channels we are missing is Discovery Turbo +1 or Food Network +1.

Early signs of new channels launches?

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...ork/?pageNo=15 (See post #428)

cheekyangus · 06-10-2019, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

Forum Box says an previously flagged as "Movies" has been change to "Lifestyle".

The only Lifestyle Channels we are missing is Discovery Turbo +1 or Food Network +1.

Early signs of new channels launches?

https://www.forumbox.co.uk/forum/thr...ork/?pageNo=15 (See post #428)

I think you misunderstood MB, JJ20X was talking about channel information slates, ones used to say a channel has moved. Quite a few have moved recently. The slates need to appear in the correct EPG categories in the places vacated by the old channels, which is what JJ20X said.

Media Boy UK · 06-10-2019, 20:32

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus

I think you misunderstood MB, JJ20X was talking about channel information slates, ones used to say a channel has moved. Quite a few have moved recently. The slates need to appear in the correct EPG categories in the places vacated by the old channels, which is what JJ20X said.

Maybe so - just thinking out loud.

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We still can't work out why Discovery did NOT ask Virgin to move Really to use the slot for TLC HD or Quest HD! Unless UKTV own the Channel number.

Also WWE fans - WWE Hell in the Cell will tonight cost up to £15.95.

SD - £14.95
HD - £15.95.

Aguero9320 · 06-10-2019, 20:51

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

Base on Discovery moves this past week we feel if Viacom have ask Virgin Media to move their channels it may move as followed:

105. Channel 5 HD
132. Comedy Central HD
133. Comedy Central Extra
134. MTV HD
150. Channel 5 +1
151. 5 USA
152. 5STAR
153. 5SELECT
154. 5Spike
155. Paramount Network HD
181. VH1
182. BET
183. Comedy Central +1
184. Comedy Central Extra +1
185. MTV +1
186. 5 USA +1
187. 5STAR +1
188. 5Spike +1

310. MTV MUSIC
311. MTV MUSIC +1
312. MTV HITS
313. MTV BASE
314. Club MTV
315. MTV ROCKS
316. MTV Live HD
317. MTV CLASSIC
318. MTV OMG

712. Nickelodeon HD
713. Nick +1
714. Nick Jr. HD
715. Nick Jr. +1
716. Nick Jr Too
717. Nicktoons

855. Channel 5 AD

It probably would’ve happened if the Viacom website hadn’t gone public like cheekyangus said, but only time will tell.

cheekyangus · 06-10-2019, 21:40

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320

It probably would’ve happened if the Viacom website hadn’t gone public like cheekyangus said, but only time will tell.

Actually I was suggesting VM would've wanted what MB was suggesting, and Viacom didn't.

I think some broadcasters don't want the HD replacing the SD as they want two fees by being in two packages. This reasoning might be why Sky didn't do it.

Legendkiller2k · 07-10-2019, 01:56

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

Maybe so - just thinking out loud.

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We still can't work out why Discovery did NOT ask Virgin to move Really to use the slot for TLC HD or Quest HD! Unless UKTV own the Channel number.

Also WWE fans - WWE Hell in the Cell will tonight cost up to £15.95.

SD - £14.95
HD - £15.95.

Or £9.99p/m via wwe network. No brainer really for WWE fans.

Aguero9320 · 07-10-2019, 12:55

Virgin Media and Viacom announce new carriage deal!

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/10/virg...e-new.html?m=1

OLD BOY · 07-10-2019, 13:05

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320

Virgin Media and Viacom announce new carriage deal!

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/10/virg...e-new.html?m=1

Yes, good news indeed. Quite a bit of extra content as well. Further information on the deal is here:

https://advanced-television.com/2019...t-partnership/

denphone · 07-10-2019, 13:13

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320

Virgin Media and Viacom announce new carriage deal!

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/10/virg...e-new.html?m=1

Just as one thought behind closed doors they were always going to come to a amicable agreement sooner rather then later.

cheekyangus · 07-10-2019, 13:23

Here's the VM press release re: Viacom.
https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...year-agreement

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Re: The 3rd Party "channels" via My5. Given several of these, and their catch-up content, are already available via VM I'm surprised VM are mentioning these. Surely they come under separate deals for those channels already.