14-07-2021, 20:42
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Chris Witty put a slide up today that showed c. 38,000 cases in hospital when the positive rate was last where it is now. By contrast, the current hospitalisation is less than 10% of previous.
To my mind, the NHS will not be overwhelmed.
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Probably because so many died before. The country is being thinned down to the strongest and fittest.
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14-07-2021, 20:51
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Re: Coronavirus
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Probably because so many died before. The country is being thinned down to the strongest and fittest.
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Well, is it? Most people didn't catch it because they stayed at home, wore masks etc.
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14-07-2021, 21:11
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Re: Coronavirus
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Probably because so many died before. The country is being thinned down to the strongest and fittest.
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Spanish Flu affected the strongest and the fittest. There is always the possibility of a Covid variant popping up, that acts in the same manner.
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The hospital, in Stockton-on-Tees, currently has 22 Covid patients, five of whom are in intensive care. That is a lot less than the peak in January - but the number has increased sharply from just six in a single week.
The average ages are lower than during the first two waves, and at least two of the seriously ill patients are in their 30s and unvaccinated.
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14-07-2021, 21:24
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Re: Coronavirus
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Spanish Flu affected the strongest and the fittest. There is always the possibility of a Covid variant popping up, that acts in the same manner.
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So they don't know how many are unvaccinated just that it is at least 2. Good reporting as usual by BBC.
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14-07-2021, 22:10
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Re: Coronavirus
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So they don't know how many are unvaccinated just that it is at least 2. Good reporting as usual by BBC.
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That's just one hospital.
At least 2 were unvaccinated AND in their 30s. Plus "average ages are lower than during the first two waves". If the more seriously ill are the ones in intensive care, that makes it 2 out of 5 being under 30.
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14-07-2021, 22:16
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Re: Coronavirus
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
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More than 46 million people in the UK have now had their first dose of a coronavirus vaccine.
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15-07-2021, 08:58
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Re: Coronavirus
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Vaccination rates are slowing significantly though. The vulnerable over 50s were enthusiastic, the young less so.
Some of my wife's colleagues who refused the vaccine gone down with it. Will they have learnt their lesson that any side effects from a vaccine, pale into insignificance to the risks of covid? Maybe, but they are a bit thick...
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15-07-2021, 12:12
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Re: Coronavirus
someone can do a calculation of how many unvaccinated 18 - 30 year olds there are as a percentage of adult population.
That can then be assessed against the infection count since Mid-May. Maybe we’re approaching a herd immunity threshold among that group. We’ll know when the infection rate drops.
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15-07-2021, 14:44
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
someone can do a calculation of how many unvaccinated 18 - 30 year olds there are as a percentage of adult population.
That can then be assessed against the infection count since Mid-May. Maybe we’re approaching a herd immunity threshold among that group. We’ll know when the infection rate drops.
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That’s what the government will be hoping, but there is no sign yet that it is dropping, contrary to what appeared to be the case as reported by a certain newspaper about a week ago.
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15-07-2021, 14:58
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Re: Coronavirus
If, as is being reported by some media & experts, you can catch it twice (or more) how can we reach herd immunity?
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15-07-2021, 15:27
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Re: Coronavirus
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If, as is being reported by some media & experts, you can catch it twice (or more) how can we reach herd immunity?
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You will always get some cases of double infection.
I had German measles twice, something that would never normally happen.
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15-07-2021, 15:34
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Re: Coronavirus
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If, as is being reported by some media & experts, you can catch it twice (or more) how can we reach herd immunity?
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Some people catch it twice, but you can still reach herd immunity providing that most people don't.
Also it appears that many who have caught it twice had two different variants. Just as vaccines created for the original variant are less effective against Delta etc, presumably so is natural immunity.
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15-07-2021, 15:58
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Carth
If, as is being reported by some media & experts, you can catch it twice (or more) how can we reach herd immunity?
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
Some people catch it twice, but you can still reach herd immunity providing that most people don't.
Also it appears that many who have caught it twice had two different variants. Just as vaccines created for the original variant are less effective against Delta etc, presumably so is natural immunity.
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Vaccination doesn't equal immunity, does it?
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15-07-2021, 16:06
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Re: Coronavirus
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Vaccination doesn't equal immunity, does it?
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But it does reduce hospitalisation, meaning that it becomes like a flu experience and a somewhat normal risk.
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15-07-2021, 16:08
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Re: Coronavirus
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But it does reduce hospitalisation, meaning that it becomes like a flu experience and a somewhat normal risk.
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until it mutates again . . because it's always out there
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