Coronavirus

[Taf]

The infected have risen from 2092 to 4028 in 5 days.

[Taf]

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[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Taf

The infected have risen from 2092 to 4028 in 5 days.

Hopefully, the vaccines will work against anyone getting seriously ill.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Taf

The infected have risen from 2092 to 4028 in 5 days.

That information on its own does not mean we have to start worrying. They are doing a tremendous amount of testing at the moment, so it’s not surprising the numbers detected are going up. If the testing reduced to the levels of four weeks ago, the numbers would go down again.

Most of these cases detected are asymptomatic, and owing to the vaccination programme, very few are being admitted to hospital. As long as the NHS is not in danger of being unable to cope, we can carry on regardless.

So my view is, we continue apace with the vaccinations and cease these restrictions as planned on 21 June.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That information on its own does not mean we have to start worrying. They are doing a tremendous amount of testing at the moment, so it’s not surprising the numbers detected are going up. If the testing reduced to the levels of four weeks ago, the numbers would go down again.

Most of these cases detected are asymptomatic, and owing to the vaccination programme, very few are being admitted to hospital. As long as the NHS is not in danger of being unable to cope, we can carry on regardless.

So my view is, we continue apace with the vaccinations and cease these restrictions as planned on 21 June.

The funniest bit about this is in the last 7 days cases are up 24%, hospitalisations 25% and deaths 38%. Is there a source for the claim that most people are asymptomatic?

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

If the testing reduced to the levels of four weeks ago, the numbers would go down again.

This week: 6.2 million.
Four weeks ago: 6.9 million.
(Source: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing)

I'm genuinely interested why people post stuff that's so easily disproved.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Taf

The infected have risen from 2092 to 4028 in 5 days.

“The” infected.............it’s a fairly mild coronavirus not the zombie apocalypse.

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Originally Posted by jfman

The funniest bit about this is in the last 7 days cases are up 24%, hospitalisations 25% and deaths 38%. Is there a source for the claim that most people are asymptomatic?

% as you well know are the worst metric. If a week goes by without a person dying, then if one person dies then week after, hey presto a 100% increase.


Your “ deaths 38%” is actually an increase of 16 people.......16...........aaaaarrrrghh..it’s the end I tell you, .........the end .

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

“The” infected.............it’s a fairly mild coronavirus not the zombie apocalypse.

% as you well know are the worst metric. If a week goes by without a person dying, then if one person dies then week after, hey presto a 100% increase.

Your “ deaths 38%” is actually an increase of 16 people.......16...........aaaaarrrrghh..it’s the end I tell you, .........the end .

And what stops such percentage increases continuing, and even rising?

Nothing.

Intervention is required the only questions are how much and when. Same old story as March last year, September, January. Flawed decision making at this stage ends one way: lockdown.

We know you enjoy proposing to steer the country into another lockdown - a staple of your input into this thread even if you don’t realise it - the rest of us are quite sick of them.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

This week: 6.2 million.
Four weeks ago: 6.9 million.
(Source: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing)

I'm genuinely interested why people post stuff that's so easily disproved.

Why change the habit of a pandemic? I’m genuinely interested in the motivation as it’s neither health or the economy.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That information on its own does not mean we have to start worrying. They are doing a tremendous amount of testing at the moment, so it’s not surprising the numbers detected are going up. If the testing reduced to the levels of four weeks ago, the numbers would go down again.

Most of these cases detected are asymptomatic, and owing to the vaccination programme, very few are being admitted to hospital. As long as the NHS is not in danger of being unable to cope, we can carry on regardless.

So my view is, we continue apace with the vaccinations and cease these restrictions as planned on 21 June.

NHS Test and Trace advert on at the moment says that 1 in 3 peeople with Covid are asymptomatic. That suggests most people with Covid do have symptoms which is reassuring. Where do your more alarming figures come from?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

NHS Test and Trace advert on at the moment says that 1 in 3 peeople with Covid are asymptomatic. That suggests most people with Covid do have symptoms which is reassuring. Where do your more alarming figures come from?

Unsurprising that OB cannot return with any kind of corroboration.

The idea that a majority (>50%) of cases aren't traced by symptomatic testing with an R rate between 7 and 8 is absolutely terrifying given the amount of unvaccinated or partially vaccinated in the population.

I can console him though that life isn't that bad - because he's incorrect.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

And what stops such percentage increases continuing, and even rising?

Nothing.

Intervention is required the only questions are how much and when. Same old story as March last year, September, January. Flawed decision making at this stage ends one way: lockdown.

We know you enjoy proposing to steer the country into another lockdown - a staple of your input into this thread even if you don’t realise it - the rest of us are quite sick of them.

And what prevents that figure from falling again?

Nothing.

Unless this becomes a sustained increase, there is no need for these constant, irritating alarm bells. We know the number of positive tests are increasing, but we knew that would happen. It is the hospitalisation figure that is important, which continues to stabalise at a very low number.

All efforts now should be focussed on completing the vaccination programme and end the pandemic restrictions on 21 June.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

And what prevents that figure from falling again?

Nothing.

That’s not how it works.

Unless this becomes a sustained increase, there is no need for these constant, irritating alarm bells.

When this becomes a sustained increase.

We know the number of positive tests are increasing, but we knew that would happen.

Did we?

It is the hospitalisation figure that is important, which continues to stabalise at a very low number.

Rising faster than positive tests.

All efforts now should be focussed on completing the vaccination programme

I actually agree with this bit

end the pandemic restrictions on 21 June.

Yet sadly you contradict yourself with such a laughable proposal here.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Pierre

“The” infected.............it’s a fairly mild coronavirus not the zombie apocalypse.

If you factor in transmission rate and mortality numbers it is the worst Coronavirus that has ever existed.

MERS and SARS beats it for mortality rate over infections but it spreads no where near as fast and wide as SARS-COV2 and when it has killed so many people world wide I do not know how you can say it is fairly mild with a straight face. In fact you were most likely smirking smugly to yourself when you typed it

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

If you factor in transmission rate and mortality numbers it is the worst Coronavirus that has ever existed.

MERS and SARS beats it for mortality rate over infections but it spreads no where near as fast and wide as SARS-COV2 and when it has killed so many people world wide I do not know how you can say it is fairly mild with a straight face. In fact you were most likely smirking smugly to yourself when you typed it

Let him will on the next lockdown. Ignorance is bliss as they say.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by jfman

Let him will on the next lockdown. Ignorance is bliss as they say.

it just grinds my gears when someone makes light of it. I like many have lost someone close to me to this disease and then someone comes along like this and acts like its nothing