Coronavirus - Page 293

Mad Max · 27-03-2021, 20:28

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Wait till I tell you what the UK Government has planned...

I'm hopeful that the vaccines will help, if not what's the point, they say that almost all of the vulnerable have been vaccinated, along with the over 50s now getting theirs, can't see why we are all still basically locked up, we are just going to have to live with it imo, just like we do with the flu.

papa smurf · 27-03-2021, 20:29

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Originally Posted by pip08456

No, the Kankies are coming back to TV.

The daily covid briefing

nomadking · 27-03-2021, 21:10

Quite unbelieveable.

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Dr. Joachim Wunderlich, a cardiologist who has helped staff a local vaccination center in Berlin, told CBS News that the bureaucratic process for people to get vaccinated in Germany was "unbelievable," and the amount of paperwork involved, "insane."
"You can't expect an over-80-year-old to fill out 10 pages and numerous consent forms and ask them to call a hotline to make an appointment," he said. "And then they risk being turned away because they forgot some forms at home."

I suppose it helps in the UK, that we have centralised NHS records. The asking of questions, eg allergies or adverse reactions to previous vaccinations, are asked at the vaccination centre.

papa smurf · 29-03-2021, 17:20

BORIS JOHNSON has confirmed 60 million doses of the Novavax coronavirus vaccine will be manufactured in the UK - just days after the drugs company delayed signing a contract with the EU.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...y-covid-jab-eu

The Prime Minister confirmed an agreement with British drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) would see doses of the coronavirus vaccine manufactured in the north east of England at the company's Barnard Castle site.

Sephiroth · 29-03-2021, 17:33

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BORIS JOHNSON has confirmed 60 million doses of the Novavax coronavirus vaccine will be manufactured in the UK - just days after the drugs company delayed signing a contract with the EU.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...y-covid-jab-eu

The Prime Minister confirmed an agreement with British drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) would see doses of the coronavirus vaccine manufactured in the north east of England at the company's Barnard Castle site.

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The Prime Minister confirmed an agreement with British drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) would see doses of the coronavirus vaccine manufactured in the north east of England at the company's Barnard Castle site.

GSK will provide "fill and finish" manufacturing capacity beginning as early as May.

The "fill and finish" is the completion stage of vaccine manufacturing, preparing vials of the final vaccine and packaging them for distribution and use.

The protein antigen component of NVX-CoV2373, which helps defeat the virus, is also produced in the North East of England by Novavax's manufacturing partner, FUJIFILM Diosynth Biotechnologies, at their site in Billingham, Stockton-on-Tees.

Britain secured a deal for 60 million doses of the life-saving injection last year but it is yet to be approved by the regulator for use.

The announcement the jabs would be manufactured in Britain comes after weeks of threats from the EU to ban the export of vaccines from the continent until bloc's slow inoculation programme had caught up with the pace of the UK's immunisation drive.

However, it also comes just days after Novavax delayed talks on signing an agreement to supply doses to Brussels.

The company is said to be wary of putting pen to paper following the threats made by the EU to AstraZeneca following issues with the manufacturing of the Oxford jab.

"You can’t blame the company for being cautious after seeing the punishment beating given to AstraZeneca over the past few weeks," a source told The Sun.

"They are clearly unwilling to line themselves up as the new scapegoats for the EU’s failings.

"There are many more countries who want to do business."

papa smurf · 29-03-2021, 17:36

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

To build on the above, here is the article text. I've highlighted a portion for your edification.

On the bad customer list then

**Chris** · 29-03-2021, 17:52

The UK's Vaccine Taskforce has been actively involved in all of this. HMG's explicit policy is to keep as much vaccine production onshore as possible, and who can blame them. Likewise I bet Novavax aren't the only ones scrutinising any potential supply deal with the EU very carefully before proceeding.

**Hugh** · 29-03-2021, 17:52

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

To build on the above, here is the article text. I've highlighted a portion for your edification.

Reuters reported it differently

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2BH2GY

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The EU official, who asked not to named as the talks are confidential, said the company had postponed signing a deal for weeks, citing legal issues in meetings with the bloc’s vaccine negotiators.

“They are slowing down the process of finishing the contract,” the official, who attended the meetings, told Reuters.

Informally, a Novavax executive had said a slow pace in negotiations was warranted because the company was having production problems, the EU official said.

A Novavax spokeswoman said in an email that talks with the EU over a supply deal continue, but declined to say more about the discussions.

[B]She said the company was working “through some pandemic-related raw materials supply shortages”, without giving details[/B.

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https://www.pharmaceutical-technolog...vavax-vaccine/

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The Serum Institute of India (SII) has announced that the launch of the Covid-19 vaccine Covovax developed jointly by the company and Novavax is likely to be delayed to September in the country.

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papa smurf · 29-03-2021, 17:54

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Reuters reported it differently

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2BH2GY

Also

https://www.pharmaceutical-technolog...vavax-vaccine/

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That's the polite way of saying sod off

**Chris** · 29-03-2021, 18:06

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Reuters reported it differently

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2BH2GY

Also

https://www.pharmaceutical-technolog...vavax-vaccine/

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I'm not sure that's all that different. First of all the source for Novavax's reasoning is an EU official, so at best that official can only be recounting what Novavax wants them to know. Letting the other side know things unofficially is a perfectly valid negotiating tactic, and besides, they're hardly going to tell them 'between you and me, we don't trust you not to go Tonto on us if you later find us supplying other customers who bought their product before you did.'

GSK is bottling 60 million doses of the Novavax product, and according to an ITV report in January, the UK government has already bought the lot.

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-01-29/...the-uk-ordered

Can you imagine what would happen if Novavax signed a 'best effort' deal with the EU tomorrow, then found it was having issues setting up production within the EU and had to tell them it would take longer than hoped to fulfil the order? Based on the very public spectacle of the EU scapegoating AstraZeneca for its own failings, Novavax would be in for the same carpeting, and the UK government would start copping flak as well. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the UK government has - informally - reminded Novavax executives of the EU's behaviour, and encouraged them to ensure there's clear blue water between any deals they've already signed, and anything the EU is asking for, before signing on the dotted line.

jonbxx · 29-03-2021, 18:19

Just had a check and it's now public that there are huge raw material supply issues with the Novavax product. This will be global apart from US manufactured vaccine (Defence Production Act fun again) and so will affect Fuji in the UK, the Czech Republic factory and the Serum Institute.

Novavax have seen what happened with AZ and are carefully not making promises it can't keep.

**Chris** · 29-03-2021, 18:20

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Just had a check and it's now public that there are huge raw material supply issues with the Novavax product. This will be global apart from US manufactured vaccine (Defence Production Act fun again) and so will affect Fuji in the UK, the Czech Republic factory and the Serum Institute.

Novavax have seen what happened with AZ and are carefully not making promises it can't keep.

Or, is not making suitably caveated promises that can later be wilfully misconstrued by a bad actor. YMMV.

papa smurf · 29-03-2021, 18:49

The most important news of the day I've booked my hair cut appointment.

Mr K · 29-03-2021, 19:21

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The most important news of the day I've booked my hair cut appointment.

No need for me, Mrs K has upskilled herself into a new permanent job

**Hugh** · 29-03-2021, 19:24

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The most important news of the day I've booked my hair cut appointment.

I thought you were bald?