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jfman · 30-05-2021, 19:02

Quite the contradiction in your opening sentence.

Bezos is probably enjoying the pandemic. Almost as much as those on here who want it to drag out longer by making grave errors that end up in lockdown and needless death.

Pierre · 30-05-2021, 19:04

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I do not think you are truly sorry for anything tbh

I offered my condolences, whether you accept them or not is a matter for you.

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Oh and just for your reference you saying it is a mild coronavirus does not make it that either

Thanks, I’ll make a note of that reference.

Jaymoss · 30-05-2021, 19:07

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I offered my condolences, whether you accept them or not is a matter for you.

All I see is you saying "it's only mild" " oh sorry someone you cared about died" "but it is still only mild"

so no I do not accept it

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Thanks, I’ll make a note of that reference.

you really really should

Pierre · 30-05-2021, 19:11

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Bezos is probably enjoying the pandemic. Almost as much as those on here.

As much as you? No one on here has demonstrated a love for lockdown or big government more than you.

You’ll be bereft when it’s over.

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All I see is you saying "it's only mild" " oh sorry someone you cared about died" "but it is still only mild"

I do not accept it

Suit yourself.

jfman · 30-05-2021, 19:14

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As much as you? No one on here has demonstrated a love for lockdown or big government more than you.

You’ll be bereft when it’s over.

“Luckily” that won’t be for some time until the booster vaccines are out there.

I think you’ll find I’m offering credible alternatives to lockdown. No restrictions from June 22 isn’t one of them.

OLD BOY · 30-05-2021, 19:22

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You had assumed wrong Old Boy.

Not for the first time - at least as far back as the virus going away by itself.

As for who will be hospitalised that's a very good question. One for the Bolton hospitals that are treating vaccinated patients I'm sure.

I’m unsure where your “less than 20” figure comes from in relation to hospital admissions. Some irrelevant measure into something unrelated I’d guess.

#5407. Are you having memory problems?

nomadking · 30-05-2021, 19:30

The longer the virus is allowed to swirl around, the easier it becomes for new variants to come along. Any new variant might be milder and/or less transmissible, or it maybe it could lead to worse affects and/or greater transmissibility.
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Vietnam has detected a Covid variant that appears to be a combination of the Indian and UK variants and can spread quickly by air, officials say.
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Mr Nguyen said the new hybrid variant was more transmissible than previously known versions, especially in the air. He said it was discovered after running tests on newly-detected patients, online newspaper VnExpress reported.

jfman · 30-05-2021, 19:33

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#5407. Are you having memory problems?

Read that post and none the wiser, OB.

Your original statement

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This must surely be the most obvious necessity at this time and yet you are more worried more about less than 20 people being admitted to hospital!

OLD BOY · 30-05-2021, 19:43

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Read that post and none the wiser, OB.

Your original statement

16 is less than 20.

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The longer the virus is allowed to swirl around, the easier it becomes for new variants to come along. Any new variant might be milder and/or less transmissible, or it maybe it could lead to worse affects and/or greater transmissibility.
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That’s why we have a vaccine. Even increased transmissibility will not be a problem when all the susceptible groups are vaccinated. We are there or thereabouts now.

We are continuing through the younger age groups now in case new variants transmit more deadly to them.

jfman · 30-05-2021, 19:49

16 is less than 20.

It’s a shame Pierre was talking about deaths, you were talking about hospitalisations.

**Hugh** · 30-05-2021, 19:49

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16 is less than 20.

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That’s why we have a vaccine. Even increased transmissibility will not be a problem when all the susceptible groups are vaccinated. We are there or thereabouts now.

We are continuing through the younger age groups now in case new variants transmit more deadly to them.

Let’s hope none of the variants is vaccine-resistant…

GrimUpNorth · 30-05-2021, 20:02

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16 is less than 20.

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That’s why we have a vaccine. Even increased transmissibility will not be a problem when all the susceptible groups are vaccinated. We are there or thereabouts now.

We are continuing through the younger age groups now in case new variants transmit more deadly to them.

I hope you're not making potentially fatal assumptions there - i.e. that the existing vaccines will work against ANY new variant and if they don't that a new vaccine can be rolled out worldwide in a matter of days, because just look how far we are away from worldwide vaccination and we've been jabbing people as fast as we can for nearly 6 months.

If you're gamble doesn't pay off we could all be starting the whole sorry affair all over again. After all, you do know we're only playing catch-up with a virus which has got form for getting away from us. It's done it (possibly more than) once and is pretty likely to do it again - every time the virus replicates there's a chance it could mutate and that's kind of like playing virus russian roulette as the more often you pull the trigger.......

Pierre · 30-05-2021, 20:21

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Let’s hope none of the variants is vaccine-resistant…

I think we all share that hope.

However, do you have any legitimate reason to think that may be the case?

The Kent, Indian, Brazilian, South African variants are all non-vaccine resistant.

We’ll feel better by not worrying about “what ifs” and focusing on “what ares”

jfman · 30-05-2021, 20:27

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I think we all share that hope.

However, do you have any legitimate reason to think that may be the case?

The Kent, Indian, Brazilian, South African variants are all non-vaccine resistant.

We’ll feel better by not worrying about “what ifs” and focusing on “what ares”

Ah false comforting hope.

Comforting, but false.

Better to manage the pandemic in the real world not Pierre's hopes and dreams.

Pierre · 30-05-2021, 20:31

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I hope you're not making potentially fatal assumptions there - i.e. that the existing vaccines will work against ANY new variant

He making a perfectly acceptable assumption based on available evidence. The vaccines currently work on all variants.

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and if they don't that a new vaccine can be rolled out worldwide in a matter of days, because just look how far we are away from worldwide vaccination and we've been jabbing people as fast as we can for nearly 6 months.

If you're gamble doesn't pay off we could all be starting the whole sorry affair all over again. After all, you do know we're only playing catch-up with a virus which has got form for getting away from us. It's done it (possibly more than) once and is pretty likely to do it again - every time the virus replicates there's a chance it could mutate and that's kind of like playing virus russian roulette as the more often you pull the trigger.......

So much fear and trepidation, do you get out of bed in the morning or just lay there quivering under the covers all day?