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Old 25-11-2021, 11:58   #16
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Re: No babies allowed in the commons

Was the child planned? if so then why stand for office when you know the rules of office?

I most certainly do not think Parliament is a place for screaming kids it is bad enough they are heckle like children as it is.

Women should be able to have maternity leave and appoint a temp minister to take her place but in my opinion the child should not be in the commons

And saying an MP is in the best place to represent their constituents surely a temp MP from the same constituency is just as capable of doing that anyway
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Old 25-11-2021, 12:06   #17
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Re: No babies allowed in the commons

Taken from her WIKI page . . about as reliable as twitter, but . .

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In June 2019, she described the culture of the Labour movement as toxic.[34] Later that year, she was protected from a potential trigger ballot and deselection by her local party as she was on maternity leave.[35]

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In June 2019, she announced she was pregnant.[62] She gave birth to a daughter in November 2019 and, after campaigning for better maternity rights for MPs, became the first MP to appoint a 'locum MP', Kizzy Gardiner, to manage constituency work.[63][64][65] In February 2021, announcing her second pregnancy, she challenged government proposals to limit new plans for parliamentary maternity leave to government ministers.
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Old 25-11-2021, 12:12   #18
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Re: No babies allowed in the commons

for the troglodytes of the site.
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Old 25-11-2021, 12:15   #19
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for the troglodytes of the site.
HA . . . got plenty of those from my mum (bless her) when I was younger.

Wouldn't have got nearly half as many if she'd buggered off to work instead of staying home to bring up the family
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Old 25-11-2021, 12:33   #20
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Re: No babies allowed in the commons

So how was the baby attending an awards show remotely necessary?
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Old 25-11-2021, 12:33   #21
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Re: No babies allowed in the commons

On demand feeding?
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Re: No babies allowed in the commons

Can't she give it a bag of crisps and a can of pop and leave it in the car.
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Re: No babies allowed in the commons

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MPs are not employees. The very nature of their job means they can't have a temporary replacement.
No need for her to be in the chamber at all. If there were points she wanted to raise, she could just as easily have asked a colleague to raise them.
It may have escaped people's notice, but babies can have a tendency to cry. Not sure babies would be too comfortable in what can be a noisy and "aggressive" in tone place.
Seeing they worked from home and used zoom to "attend" parliment, why can't an MP on mat leave do the same?
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Old 25-11-2021, 14:37   #24
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Seeing they worked from home and used zoom to "attend" parliment, why can't an MP on mat leave do the same?
So has any other MP "attended" Parliament in the Chamber via Zoom or whatever?

This sort of thing always has a tendency to bring out the nonsensical bogus arguments such as yours.
If you have a baby that will need feeding, then you have to be unselfish and actually think about the child, before going to a totally unnecessary awards show, especially taking the child with you.
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Re: No babies allowed in the commons

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And therein lies the problem.

The House of Commons, of all places, should reflect the society it legislates for as well as it possibly can. The voices of nursing mothers are a part of that, whether you like it or not.

The attitude you articulate here is the very one that ensured the commons remained the preserve of upper class white men for far longer than it ought to have. In large measure it still is that. If we can’t make additional efforts to accommodate everybody’s voice in the very place power resides, what sort of society will we be shaping?

You can’t get maternity cover as an MP. The proxy vote concession is the bare minimum - it doesn’t entitle someone else to speak in the chamber on your behalf. Stella Creasey, who is the MP in view in this case, has no other means of representing her constituents’ interests in debates without actually showing up and speaking for herself. And being a nursing mother means there will be times her baby has to be with her while she does this.

I had hoped the attitude you have shown here was one that was dying out, along with the socially crippled old men who made this ruling. I’m very sad to see it alive and well in one who (IIRC) is significantly younger than me.
There is a crèche on site, more facilities than most working mothers 'enjoy'

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Can't she give it a bag of crisps and a can of pop and leave it in the car.
Not if Baroness Mone is clocking in for her £300 on the way to pressure DHSC into giving her chums PPE contracts in the fast lane.

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I’m left wondering how many members of this forum know what breasts are actually for.
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I’m left wondering how many members of this forum know what breasts are actually for.
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I’m left wondering how many members of this forum know what breasts are actually for.

They are meant to be used as Pillows according to the band Cornershop.
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Re: No babies allowed in the commons

Pretty much no workplace would allow you to take a baby or child to work.
Thats exactly why nurseries exist, and most people have to pay to use them.
The commons has one (thats free ?) so what makes her so special she cant use whats provided.
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