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Old 24-11-2021, 19:29   #136
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Re: Windows 11

Thanks. I'll check
if I have TMP, then I'll give it a go.
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Re: Windows 11

My PC is showing signs of its age ie dvd dead ,won't support windows 11 . What basic things should l look out for if and when l go for a new one. . Uses are very basic. Don't use it for games,films etc . mostly social media , e mails , and simple uses on Excel.
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My PC is showing signs of its age ie dvd dead ,won't support windows 11 . What basic things should l look out for if and when l go for a new one. . Uses are very basic. Don't use it for games,films etc . mostly social media , e mails , and simple uses on Excel.
desktop tower? there are some excellent prebuilds for fair prices all over the place starting likely cheaper than you would think
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Old 24-11-2021, 22:02   #139
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Re: Windows 11

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My PC is showing signs of its age ie dvd dead ,won't support windows 11 . What basic things should l look out for if and when l go for a new one. . Uses are very basic. Don't use it for games,films etc . mostly social media , e mails , and simple uses on Excel.
It would be a lot cheaper to just replace the DVD.
Stick with whatever Windows you have, there is nothing compelling about W11.
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Re: Windows 11

and perhaps upgrade to an ssd if it does not have one
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Old 24-11-2021, 23:04   #141
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Re: Windows 11

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if the mobo has TPM 1.2 you can use a reg hack to allow install

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup
New > DWORD (32-bit) Value
AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU value 1
My Intel Core i5-6600 3.30GHz (Released 2015) CPU has PTT, which wasn't enabled. I have enabled it. PC health check now says that TPM 2.0 is enabled. but my PC spec still isn't sufficient for W11. The CPU is not supported by W11.

Is it appropriate to use your hack at this stage?

EDIT: System/setup doesn't have MoSetup . Is there an alternative key for my system?
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Re: Windows 11

I would use backupper to create a system image first and then I would go for it. Do you have a second drive for the backup?

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Re: Windows 11

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I would use backupper to create a system image first and then I would go for it. Do you have a second drive for the backup?

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The hack comes from MS
Have found that system/setup doesn't have MoSetup . Is there an alternative key for my system?

I use Acronis for my system images.

EDIT: Have created MoSetup using 'NEW' and have created the key as suggested. PC Health still says the PC is not compatible. Should I use the media creation method opting for reinstall W11?
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Old 24-11-2021, 23:55   #144
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Have found that system/setup doesn't have MoSetup . Is there an alternative key for my system?

I use Acronis for my system images.

EDIT: Have created MoSetup using 'NEW' and have created the key as suggested. PC Health still says the PC is not compatible. Should I use the media creation method opting for reinstall W11?
https://www.theverge.com/22715331/ho...gistry-regedit

This says run the exe from the iso/usb so create the media then run it perhaps although the upgrade will likely do the same. It says it then gives a warning rather than a rejection
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Old 25-11-2021, 01:51   #145
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Re: Windows 11

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https://www.theverge.com/22715331/ho...gistry-regedit

This says run the exe from the iso/usb so create the media then run it perhaps although the upgrade will likely do the same. It says it then gives a warning rather than a rejection
Progress. Began to install but failed on the second reboot.

Error 0x800F0830
Failed in the SAFE-OS phase with an error during INSTALL_UPDATES operation.

Could be external devices or driver problems, even though I had done a full Windows 10 update. I remember this sort of problem installing W10 on an older machine.
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Progress. Began to install but failed on the second reboot.

Error 0x800F0830
Failed in the SAFE-OS phase with an error during INSTALL_UPDATES operation.

Could be external devices or driver problems, even though I had done a full Windows 10 update. I remember this sort of problem installing W10 on an older machine.
was the machine connected to a network and have internet access? I always disconnect internet when doing Windows installs
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was the machine connected to a network and have internet access? I always disconnect internet when doing Windows installs
Yes it was, including a second attempt where I uninstalled f-secure and drivers for cameras etc. Same error.

Can I assume that having the internet disconnected stops the installer looking for updates and thereby causing it to fall over? You next answer will tell me whether I want to continue with this or not.

I got a warning telling me that even if I do manage to install W11, I won't get build updates anyway. If that is the case, my attempts end here.

BTW Thanks for your help so far.
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Re: Windows 11

That is my theory on it
I thought the warning was may not get updates down the line?
If it was me I would continue cuz I enjoy playing with this sort of thing, if however you are not enjoying the experiment then stop now. The good side of all this is you keep backups as you said you use acronis so you are not losing anything but a bit of time
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That is my theory on it
I thought the warning was may not get updates down the line?
If it was me I would continue cuz I enjoy playing with this sort of thing, if however you are not enjoying the experiment then stop now. The good side of all this is you keep backups as you said you use acronis so you are not losing anything but a bit of time
Success. Disconnecting from the internet did the trick.

Full install followed by successful updates.

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sweet. Good work buddy
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