Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
25-01-2016, 20:40
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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Originally Posted by DJSADERS
I make nearly 28k as a contractor without needing a bonus, the offer i got in-house even with 5 years experience was 18k (starting wage)... i don't know anyone willing to loose 10k to do the same job.
If your trying to say that in-house do this then i want to work on your network lol, as i can guaratee you thats not done on my network, im happy to dig a garden and repair a cable however i cant same the same for some in-house, the repairing of d-sides is left to networks... changing to an unused d-side and reporting the damaged d-side to networks is enough (they are extremely helpful and active), sharing a drop while waiting for a repull if damaged outside of the boundary is a must, however as stated above if damaged in the boundary then either the fix is found and repaired or a new piece of wire from the tee to etb, as a contractor the work is still audited by the same in-house PT's that audit in-house work, and HAS to be of the same quality.
Given a choice i will not be going back to installs ever i would rather be homeless and unemployed than be worked like an animal again, as a faults engineer i have to work with the exact same rules that you in-house guys have to work within, but still for 10hrs more per week with less perks.
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I see, well sounds like I was wrong
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25-01-2016, 20:47
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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Why would he cut it off? was it your own F connector?[/QUOTE]
All work originally done with VM kit so compliant F connector and RG59 cable, but it was my isolator as it had 3 taps. You'll need to ask the tech why he cut it off, I know his PT, I've not raised this with him, the tech broke into a sweat when he realised what he had done....just a plonker.
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26-01-2016, 12:13
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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Originally Posted by Kushan
The irony of an ISP having trouble hiring in a place called IP-Swi[t]ch.
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What is this, bad pun Tuesday?
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26-01-2016, 18:29
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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What is this, bad pun Tuesday?
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Sure is, I even got you a gif[t]:
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05-11-2016, 18:31
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
... and for many more of us, an excellent firm of which to be a customer.
Let us hope that the redundancies weed out the twirks.
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Let's hope so.
Has anything more been heard about this, I can't find anything online and it's been almost a year?
Also, if the headcount is actually going to increase as a result of Project Lightening, could they not juggle things about by the use of redeployment?
Their Q4 figures will make very interesting reading. I predict TV customers down, due to the sluggish TiVo and broadband to be up, due to Project Lightening.
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05-11-2016, 18:36
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
Well your predictions so far Richard are not that good.
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06-11-2016, 20:25
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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Well your predictions so far Richard are not that good.
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What predictions do you mean?
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07-11-2016, 05:34
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
What predictions do you mean?
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Well there is such a plethora of them it might take me a little while to find them all....
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07-11-2016, 07:09
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
One thing is for sure, they've already cut the numbers of UK support staff. The VM forum team take one week at least to respond. And they still have that wretched offshore call centre despite howling complaints from customers.
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07-11-2016, 11:58
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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Let's hope so.
Has anything more been heard about this, I can't find anything online and it's been almost a year?
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The process is now over and the new organisation structure in place on 1st November.
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Also, if the headcount is actually going to increase as a result of Project Lightening, could they not juggle things about by the use of redeployment?
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Those at risk were free to apply for all available and suitable roles in the company
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07-11-2016, 14:04
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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Originally Posted by denphone
Well there is such a plethora of them it might take me a little while to find them all....
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Is that really the best you can come up with?
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
One thing is for sure, they've already cut the numbers of UK support staff. The VM forum team take one week at least to respond. And they still have that wretched offshore call centre despite howling complaints from customers.
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It looks like you could well be right, it took over a week for a complaint of mine to be dealt with (got sorted this morning).
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The process is now over and the new organisation structure in place on 1st November.
Those at risk were free to apply for all available and suitable roles in the company
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That's good.
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11-11-2016, 15:41
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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Originally Posted by DJSADERS
I make nearly 28k as a contractor without needing a bonus, the offer i got in-house even with 5 years experience was 18k (starting wage)... i don't know anyone willing to loose 10k to do the same job.
If your trying to say that in-house do this then i want to work on your network lol, as i can guaratee you thats not done on my network, im happy to dig a garden and repair a cable however i cant same the same for some in-house, the repairing of d-sides is left to networks... changing to an unused d-side and reporting the damaged d-side to networks is enough (they are extremely helpful and active), sharing a drop while waiting for a repull if damaged outside of the boundary is a must, however as stated above if damaged in the boundary then either the fix is found and repaired or a new piece of wire from the tee to etb, as a contractor the work is still audited by the same in-house PT's that audit in-house work, and HAS to be of the same quality.
Given a choice i will not be going back to installs ever i would rather be homeless and unemployed than be worked like an animal again, as a faults engineer i have to work with the exact same rules that you in-house guys have to work within, but still for 10hrs more per week with less perks.
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Surely in house repair techs would earn more than £28k? If not I'll never be working for VM.
Wouldn't in-house repair techs get overtime on top of their basic pay too? Usually direct labour would be on more than contractors. In Openreach direct labour staff earn much more than contractors.
Also, wouldn't you find repairs much more interesting than doing installs day in day out?
Last edited by MrIca; 11-11-2016 at 15:45.
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11-11-2016, 15:54
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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Originally Posted by MrIca
Surely in house repair techs would earn more than £28k? If not I'll never be working for VM.
Wouldn't in-house repair techs get overtime on top of their basic pay too? Usually direct labour would be on more than contractors. In Openreach direct labour staff earn much more than contractors.
Also, wouldn't you find repairs much more interesting than doing installs day in day out?
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I was earning £12k on first line. I got moved to Outage, you know - monitoring the entire country, raising outages, coordinating with the various *NMC's, etc.
Know how much I was on? £12k still.
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11-11-2016, 18:30
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
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Originally Posted by MrIca
Surely in house repair techs would earn more than £28k? If not I'll never be working for VM.
Wouldn't in-house repair techs get overtime on top of their basic pay too? Usually direct labour would be on more than contractors. In Openreach direct labour staff earn much more than contractors.
Also, wouldn't you find repairs much more interesting than doing installs day in day out?
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As always it depends, but in my experience contracting staff have nearly always made more money that client staff
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11-11-2016, 18:59
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Re: Virgin Media could make 900 redundancies
According to this, the start for an engineer is just over 22K.
http://www.btplc.com/Careercentre/Ou...fits/index.htm
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