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Old 12-02-2018, 11:45   #421
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Obama did not say "contact". He said "speak to". Politicians choose the words carefully. Those with a legal background like Obama - even more so.
‘Speak to’ on behalf of someone else, is still the original person getting in to contact with somebody. There is no pussyfooting around this with semantics. Apply the logic FFS.

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Why don't you just admit you were wrong on this? You post a lot and it's inevitable that without double-checking by someone else first, some of the stuff anyone posts even in the best of faith will be wrong.
Erm, simply because I’m not wrong.
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‘Speak to’ on behalf of someone else, is still the original person getting in to contact with somebody. There is no pussyfooting around this with semantics. Apply the logic FFS.

Erm, simply because I’m not wrong.
As your colleague Damien has stated, if we disagree on the fundamentals of what constitutes facts, it's unconstructive to continue the debate.
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As your colleague Damien has stated, if we disagree on the fundamentals of what constitutes facts, it's unconstructive to continue the debate.
Speak for yourself. You’re the one not applying simple logic here. You’d be the type to argue Black was White, given half the chance.
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Speak for yourself. You’re the one not applying simple logic here. You’d be the type to argue Black was White, given half the chance.
And you'd argue white was black Mick (if Trump tweeted it ! )
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43034789

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The US president's daughter-in-law, Vanessa Trump, was taken to hospital as a precaution after opening an envelope containing white powder, police say.

The letter was addressed to Donald Trump Jr, Mr Trump's eldest son, at his apartment in Manhattan.

Mrs Trump and two others at the scene were decontaminated by firefighters and taken to hospital for evaluation.

NYPD told the BBC they tested the white powder in the envelope and confirmed that it was non-hazardous.
This is disgusting. Attacking the POTUS family in this way is not on..However much you may dislike the man himself.
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This is disgusting. Attacking the POTUS family in this way is not on..However much you may dislike the man himself.
Completely agree - totally wrong.
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Mike Pence 'thinks Jesus tells him to say things', says former Trump aide Omarosa
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8207876.html

Oh good, when the Trumpster finally does get impeached, the Lord's messenger is waiting to take over !
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Oh good, when the Trumpster finally does get impeached, the Lord's messenger is waiting to take over !
Don't take the piss out of the rights or beliefs of people who have faiths and religious expression.

You say 'Finally does'... like it is going to happen, as it stands it is very unlikely for the foreseeable future.

What has he done to warrant impeachment and don't mention the Russia thing, that was actually done by the DNC/Crooked Hillary campaign via Steele via the Russians ?

Are you aware there has now been two vote resolutions for Impeachment put forward by Al Green, these have been voted down and even by most House Democrats.

And it takes a lot to impeach a sitting President. A simple Majority in the House of Representatives and then, two thirds Majority in the Senate to be precise. Democrats sit on 49 Senate Seats currently.

Even if in the Mid Terms, Democrats some how pulled off a runaway victory in the Senate, it would not be enough to reach the 66 votes required for conviction.

33 Seats are up for grabs this Mid Term Election cycle, 23 of them already possessed by Democrats, and 10 of those seats are in States Donald Trump won in 2016. Even if the Democrats won them all, it will still be 7 votes short to guarantee a successful Impeachment just by Democrats alone.

Then there is the issue to contend with the millions of people in the US that are still behind Trump who would very likely take to the streets. Impeachment would just cause an even bigger divide than there is currently.
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Oh good, when the Trumpster finally does get impeached, the Lord's messenger is waiting to take over !
Perhaps he should start listening to him, I can't believe it was Jesus he was quoting 're his death penalty stance, anyway I'll stop before I take the piss out of him, it's perfectly fine for him to politicise his faith as long as no one jokes about it.
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Oh good, when the Trumpster finally does get impeached, the Lord's messenger is waiting to take over !

If Pence is a Born again Christian, he should be hearing from Jesus, along with the wisdom to know if/when/how, it should be shared.


https://www.thoughtco.com/bible-vers...ing-god-712122
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The reason I said what I said about faith and not taking the piss out of peoples beliefs in god is that we do actually have members on this forum who do believe and very strong faiths in god and have strong Christian values. Some of them are on the team. We will not turn this forum in to a bashing of faiths or religions on this forum.
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“I am Mr. Trump’s longtime special counsel and I have proudly served in that role for more than a decade,” Cohen said Tuesday night in a statement first reported by the New York Times. “In a private transaction in 2016, I used my own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford. Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nl_most&wpmm=1

I wonder why Trump’s ‘longtime special counsel’ paid someone $130k out of his own pocket?
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The reason I said what I said about faith and not taking the piss out of peoples beliefs in god is that we do actually have members on this forum who do believe and very strong faiths in god and have strong Christian values. Some of them are on the team. We will not turn this forum in to a bashing of faiths or religions on this forum.
I'm one of them Mick! It's a very well intentioned policy to imo, it's just a shame politicians can't help themselves from bringing God into politics especially when Christian teachings go directly against a lot of the stuff he espouses, if you can't separate your faith from your political career you should be prepared to be called a hypocrite or charlatan
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“I am Mr. Trump’s longtime special counsel and I have proudly served in that role for more than a decade,” Cohen said Tuesday night in a statement first reported by the New York Times. “In a private transaction in 2016, I used my own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford. Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nl_most&wpmm=1

I wonder why Trump’s ‘longtime special counsel’ paid someone $130k out of his own pocket?
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...t-trump-affair
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Adult film star Stormy Daniels reportedly believes recent comments by President Trump's lawyer open the way for her to discuss publicly her alleged affair with Trump.

A manager for Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, told The Associated Press on Wednesday that Daniels believes Michael Cohen, the president's personal lawyer, violated a 2016 nondisclosure agreement by telling The New York Times that he personally paid her to stay quiet about the 2006 affair.
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