President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Hugh

But that’s a circular argument - if he wasn’t going to his golf courses, the expenses wouldn’t be incurred, and all the expenses paid when he goes to his golf courses go to his companies.

So he’s profiting every time he visits his golf courses (and that’s over 160 times since his inauguration).

Biggest irony being how he berated Obama for golfing a few times, yet now he has the job, he seems to think it can be done on a part time basis.

Originally Posted by Angua

Biggest irony being how he berated Obama for golfing a few times, yet now he has the job, he seems to think it can be done on a part time basis.

Do you have anything else you want to tediously complain about?

Strangely enough, despite all his golfing compared to Obama's - the US Economy is doing wonders and job numbers are up by record levels, for blacks and women.

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Mick

Do you have anything else you want to tediously complain about?

Strangely enough, despite all his golfing compared to Obama's - the US Economy is doing wonders and job numbers are up by record levels, for blacks and women.

Is this actually Trumps doing, or is it perhaps that things were on the upward slope anyway?

The soybean farmers are not so happy.

A little objectivity is needed where Trump is concerned, all is not as rosy as he believes.

Originally Posted by Angua

Is this actually Trumps doing, or is it perhaps that things were on the upward slope anyway?

The soybean farmers are not so happy.

A little objectivity is needed where Trump is concerned, all is not as rosy as he believes.

That is absolute cobblers.

Factory owners in "Middle America" have been able to reopen derelict steal factories, as I said before job numbers are up, under him, you are just whinging for the sake of it, because it's Trump.

While the upward trend to the economy happened towards the end of Obama's presidency, Trump's Tax cuts have added fiscal fuel, so yes it is down to Trump Administration.

While President Obama was campaigning for Hillary Clinton in 2016 Presidential Election and laughed off suggestions from Trump that he would get the Growth rate to 4% and that Trump would need a "Magic wand." Well I guess Trump has that magic wand because GDP is now above 4% in the U.S.

The Mid terms showed America is fairly happy with him, his party gained seats in the Senate and lost half as many seats in the House that Obama did during the mid terms in his first term. There was no Blue wave that the Democrats said there would be.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Angua

Is this actually Trumps doing, or is it perhaps that things were on the upward slope anyway?

The soybean farmers are not so happy.

A little objectivity is needed where Trump is concerned, all is not as rosy as he believes.

Don't think you'll get objectivity from the main contributer to this thread

Originally Posted by Mr K

Don't think you'll get objectivity from the main contributer to this thread

Dead right - not when facts outweigh peoples hatred for one man.

Pity the deficit and debt are increasing...

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/1657338002/

According to the Monthly Treasury Statement for fiscal 2018, the year that just ended Sept. 30, the deficit was $779 billion — a $113 billion, 17 percent increase over the $666 billion deficit recorded last year.

This was the biggest one-year increase in the deficit since 2009, when the Great Recession wreaked havoc on federal finances. At 3.9 percent, it was the largest deficit compared with gross domestic product since 2013.

The bottom line 2018 deficit number is significant because it occurred during good economic times, when the federal deficit typically falls rather than spikes. But that's not the most important story. A simple analysis of what Treasury reported shows that virtually the entire deficit increase was because the tax cut enacted in December reduced revenues substantially.

https://www.thebalance.com/trump-pla...l-debt-4114401

National Debt Since Trump Took Office
At first, it seemed Trump was lowering the debt. It fell $102 billion in the first six months after Trump took office. On January 20th, the day Trump was inaugurated, the debt was $19.9 trillion. On July 30, it was $19.8 trillion, a decrease of $102 billion. But it was not because of anything he did. Instead, it was because of the federal debt ceiling.

On September 8, 2017, Trump signed a bill increasing the debt ceiling. Later that day, the debt exceeded $20 trillion for the first time in U.S. history. On February 9, 2018, Trump signed a bill suspending the debt ceiling until March 1, 2019. On March 15, 2018, the debt exceeded $21 trillion. The debt will continue to increase until the 2019 deadline. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates it could be $22 trillion by then. If so, Trump will have overseen the fastest dollar increase in the debt in just three years.

Trump's Fiscal Year 2019 budget projects the debt will increase $8.3 trillion during his first term. It's almost as much as Obama added in two terms while fighting a recession. Trump has not fulfilled his campaign promise to cut the debt. Instead, he's done the opposite.

Seriously do you have to keep playing these silly games. Deficit increased under Obama as well.

Originally Posted by Mick

Seriously do you have to keep playing these silly games. Deficit increased under Obama as well.

seriously, I thought the Republicans stated they were the party that opposed increased deficits and debts...

The deficit and debt is increasing faster under Trump, when he said during his campaign he would reduce it.

And the deficit increased under Obama due to trying to recover from the 2008 recession.

Originally Posted by Hugh

seriously, I thought the Republicans stated they were the party that opposed increased deficits and debts...

The deficit and debt is increasing faster under Trump, when he said during his campaign he would reduce it.

And the deficit increased under Obama due to trying to recover from the 2008 recession.

Easy cop out and ridiculous, he and the Democrats did nothing to pay back the deficit for the remaining 8 years of his presidency, increasing it by 9 Trillion. Spending and tax decisions are primarily the responsibility of Congress, the president just signs off on it. Theoretically, I am defending Obama a bit here, as well.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46256296

Finns have been baffled by US President Donald Trump's comments praising the country for managing its vast forests by raking.

Citing a conversation with his Finnish counterpart, Mr Trump said they spend "a lot of time on raking and cleaning".

But President Sauli Niinisto told a Finnish daily he could not remember talking about raking when the two met.

So who exactly is peddling fake news?

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46256296



So who exactly is peddling fake news?

He just may be on to something:

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Mick

Hold on, I thought Robert Mueller was already doing this and after nearly a year, has found NOTHING on Trump ???

A couple of points...

1) We don't know what's going on behind closed doors. If Mueller has something serious on Trump, do you really think he is going to broadcast it?
2) Watergate took longer than a year, and it could be argued that that investigation was shortened, as Nixon was persuaded to resign.

But her emails!!!

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Hugh

But her emails!!!

At least she's sent some emails, doubt Trump has turned his office PC on yet. Gets in the way of his TV