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Old 13-03-2019, 09:09   #8461
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Re: Brexit

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Why would the remain side do anything to facilitate something they so vehemently disagree with?

Perhaps if May had reached out for cross party talks a few months earlier she could of cobbled together something that got a deal through (although i doubt it)

Saying there will be a delay of a couple of months is just daft, we're in deep doo doo and no one has an idea on how to navigate a course through it.
Exactly as it was the Brexit side who won the referendum so its up to them to facilitate Brexit and our withdrawal from the EU which in these past near on three years they have up to now made a complete omnishambles of.
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Old 13-03-2019, 09:22   #8462
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Re: Brexit

Confucius had a saying:- 'You can't polish a t*rd'.
RIP Brexit.
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Old 13-03-2019, 09:24   #8463
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Confucius had a saying:- 'You can't polish a t*rd'.
RIP Brexit.
Unfortunately I don't think it's going to be that easy,
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Old 13-03-2019, 09:33   #8464
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Unfortunately I don't think it's going to be that easy,
Revoking article 50 ? easy peasy ! But admittedly our Govt. struggle to do anything.....
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Old 13-03-2019, 10:08   #8465
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Re: Brexit

The government has published its 'no deal' tariff plan I see - https://www.ft.com/content/d05189c8-...5-23d669740bfb
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47551266

It looks like most products will be tariff free, only meat, dairy, cars, ceramics and fuels will attract significant tariffs which is good news for those industries though of course not for consumers who buy Irish beef and German cars for example. It looks like a temporary initiative for a year in the first instance.

I see also, there is a plan for no checks and customs declarations at the Irish border planned for a period of 12 months.

So, rolling these two together, we will charge tariffs on some imports from the EU unless they come across the Irish border where they can just go through. You could see a lot of EU shipments coming in to the Port of Dublin and then across the border.

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Old 13-03-2019, 10:17   #8466
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Re: Brexit

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Why would the remain side do anything to facilitate something they so vehemently disagree with?

Perhaps if May had reached out for cross party talks a few months earlier she could of cobbled together something that got a deal through (although i doubt it)

Saying there will be a delay of a couple of months is just daft, we're in deep doo doo and no one has an idea on how to navigate a course through it.
Because that was the democratic decision of the electorate and both main political parties gave a manifesto pledge to implement it.

Maybe they are just not democrats.
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Old 13-03-2019, 10:25   #8467
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Because that was the democratic decision of the electorate and both main political parties gave a manifesto pledge to implement it.

Maybe they are just not democrats.


Ummm no, if 17.4 million people decided to jump off a cliff would you follow them? I highly doubt it.

You seem to have a very skewed vision on what democracy is. Democracy by it's very nature is open to challenge and/or change. Has anything illegal been done in this process by the remain camp? I haven't seen anything so far?
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Old 13-03-2019, 11:03   #8468
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Re: Brexit

Loved a guy on Five Live this morning. He thought we could tell the EU to 'do one' on account of we have rabbits in the fields and can grow our own potatoes ! Bit of limited diet ! What next ? mud houses and horse drawn transport ...
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Loved a guy on Five Live this morning. He thought we could tell the EU to 'do one' on account of we have rabbits in the fields and can grow our own potatoes ! Bit of limited diet ! What next ? mud houses and horse drawn transport ...

Very limited especially as 95% of the population wouldn't have a clue how to catch a rabbit (myself included)

So that would leave the majority with just potatoes then.....
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Old 13-03-2019, 11:14   #8470
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Loved a guy on Five Live this morning. He thought we could tell the EU to 'do one' on account of we have rabbits in the fields and can grow our own potatoes ! Bit of limited diet ! What next ? mud houses and horse drawn transport ...
Problem with a rabbit only diet is it can lead to malnutrition because the meat is so lean it's missing fat and other nutrients. Otherwise I applaud his enthusiasm..But even during WW2 we couldn't grow enough to feed the population which was a lot lower than it is now and we required help from other countries in the commonwealth. We will still need to import some foods.
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Old 13-03-2019, 11:23   #8471
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Obviously they aren't 'meaningful' votes if they don't accept the result !
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Re: Brexit

Maybe we can strike some deals with Russia . . remember them?
The country that everyone is sanctioning, apparently.

Germany are doing quite well from a country that 'is constantly trying to undermine the west by nefarious means' . . sanctions my rear end

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekea...n-russian-gas/

https://www.dw.com/en/siemens-to-hik...dal/a-47548791

https://financialobserver.eu/cse-and...ing-in-russia/

Putin laughing his socks off I'd guess

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The government has announced that most imports into the UK would not attract a tariff in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

Under a temporary scheme 87% of imports by value would be eligible for zero-tariff access.

At the moment 80% of imports are tariff free.

It would mean 82% of imports from the EU would be tariff-free, down from 100% now.

92% percent of imports from the rest of the world would pay no border duty, up from 56%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47551266
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