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Old 16-01-2020, 22:32   #1
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Hub2ac or Hub3?

Virgin is sending me a Hub 3 tomorrow. I've had a Hub 2ac for a few years now, I was apart of the Hub 3 trial, (white version) but I went back to 2ac afterwards.
Recently I've woken up to find some of my Google Nests, smart plugs, NowTv boxes disconnected overnight from wifi. This has happened 10 times since New Years.
Even my mobiles can't connect after this happens 'no ip address found' is displayed. Though some devices stay connected.
I have around 25 devices connected to wifi and 2 wired.

Do you think the Hub 2ac can't cope with the number of devices?
So Virgin is sending a new Hub 3.
Will that cope with wifi devices?

Or should I buy another router and use Hub 3 in modem mode or even keep Hub 2ac in modem mode?

Thanks for any advice.
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Old 16-01-2020, 23:11   #2
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Re: Hub2ac or Hub3?

A third party router will always be better than anything ISP's give.
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Old 17-01-2020, 00:15   #3
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Re: Hub2ac or Hub3?

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A third party router will always be better than anything ISP's give.
This. I wouldn't recommend either hub as a router, do yourself a favour and buy a 3rd party one. A good Asus or even netgear will be leaps and bounds better than what you have now.

On that, the Hub3 will give you much more reliable bandwidth due to the sheer number of channels it can bond.
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Old 17-01-2020, 09:06   #4
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Re: Hub2ac or Hub3?

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I've had a Hub 2ac for a few years now, I was apart of the Hub 3 trial, (white version) but I went back to 2ac afterwards.

Ditto, my 2ac failed to boot one day (about a year ago now) so I've been using my trial Hub 3 ever since. With the current firmware the Hub 3 is much better than it was during the trial so give it a go first before spending money on an separate router.
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Old 17-01-2020, 09:17   #5
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Re: Hub2ac or Hub3?

I used modem mode for years, mainly as the original SH was dire. Stayed that way even when it went to a SH2ac. Had problems with my router one day, set the SH back to router mode and it hasn't missed a beat since. It works so I'm not changing. SH2ac is rock solid for me, but I don't have 25 devices !
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Re: Hub2ac or Hub3?

Hub3 of course, but with your own router.

Personally i use a Hub3 in router mode though as it is all i need.
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Old 17-01-2020, 12:43   #7
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Re: Hub2ac or Hub3?

I went back to shub2ac after finding the shub3 totally pants for wifi in our home.
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Re: Hub2ac or Hub3?

Thank you for the info.
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Re: Hub2ac or Hub3?

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Ditto, my 2ac failed to boot one day (about a year ago now) so I've been using my trial Hub 3 ever since. With the current firmware the Hub 3 is much better than it was during the trial so give it a go first before spending money on an separate router.
My trial 2ac failed last week. So I attached my white trial Hub 3 and all is fine. All this when my Hub 4 arrived for my main circuit.
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Re: Hub2ac or Hub3?

Why do routers/hubs have such a limited lifespan ? Other electrical devices last decades, but routers seem to self destruct after a few years. Deliberately manufactured to fail?
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Why do routers/hubs have such a limited lifespan ? Other electrical devices last decades, but routers seem to self destruct after a few years. Deliberately manufactured to fail?
El Cheapo. That said, on my third circuit, the 7 year old SH2 is still operating.

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Re: Hub2ac or Hub3?

Our SH1 is still working OK, though the power supply exploded a few months ago. Running on a universal adapter now.

The problem in most consumer electronics is the use of cheap, badly made, Chinese capacitors. Lost count of the number that I've replaced recently.
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Is the lack of lead in solder these days still a problem?
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Re: Hub2ac or Hub3?

OT. Apparently the Chinese capacitors have too little acid in the electrolyte and the aluminium electrodes corrode internally drying out the electrolyte.

I am not aware of issues with lead free solder. Now mostly Tin with a small amount of Antimony.
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OT. Apparently the Chinese capacitors have too little acid in the electrolyte and the aluminium electrodes corrode internally drying out the electrolyte.

I am not aware of issues with lead free solder. Now mostly Tin with a small amount of Antimony.
Interesting. Thanks.
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