Processed meats do cause cancer

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Lidls are selling Biltong for 99p/pack. Just ate a pack. Very tasty

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I suspect that there is.

Did you know that's more risky than a game of dominoes?

[Taf]

Heard last evening from a passerby talking on his mobile...

"It's not meat that causes cancer, it's the chemicals they treat it with".

Originally Posted by Taf

Heard last evening from a passerby talking on his mobile...

"It's not meat that causes cancer, it's the chemicals they treat it with".

That's why they assume it is, kinda. Not in the case of Red meat though.

This is a good breakdown of the story free from the media's spin: http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk....-need-to-know/

In red meat, the problems seem to start when a chemical called haem – part of the red pigment in the blood, haemoglobin – is broken down in our gut to form a family of chemicals called N-nitroso compounds. These have been found to damage the cells that line the bowel, so other cells in the bowel lining have to replicate more in order to heal. And it’s this ‘extra’ replication that can increase the chance of errors developing in the cells’ DNA – the first step on the road to cancer.

On top of this, processed red meats contain chemicals that generate N-nitroso compounds in the gut, such as nitrite preservatives.

Cooking meat at high temperatures, such as grilling or barbequing, can also create chemicals in the meat that may increase the risk of cancer. These chemicals are generally produced in higher levels in red and processed meat compared to other meats.

[Taf]

I must be in my wife's good books.

I've been having extra bacon and sausages for my breakfast every morning.

[Taf]

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[Osem]

Originally Posted by Taf

I must be in my wife's good books.

I've been having extra bacon and sausages for my breakfast every morning.

Yes, me too. My missus seems to think I should eat lots more butter and cheese...

Originally Posted by Taf

Finding out what the causes are often leads to cures, or helps prevention, and prevention is always better than a cure.....

Plus I am pretty sure they have thought about trying to cure cancer, i think it's pretty hard. Someone should tell the guy in the picture that alcohol can cause cancer though. Also memes.

[heero_yuy]

Though I'd bump this thread as new research reveals:

Quote from the Newyork Times:

Public health officials for years have urged Americans to limit consumption of red meat and processed meats because of concerns that these foods are linked to heart disease, cancer and other ills.

But on Monday, in a remarkable turnabout, an international collaboration of researchers produced a series of analyses concluding that the advice, a bedrock of almost all dietary guidelines, is not backed by good scientific evidence.

If there are health benefits from eating less beef and pork, they are small, the researchers concluded. Indeed, the advantages are so faint that they can be discerned only when looking at large populations, the scientists said, and are not sufficient to tell individuals to change their meat-eating habits.

Another unnecessary food scare built on thin evidence. What a surprise.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Though I'd bump this thread as new research reveals:



Another unnecessary food scare built on thin evidence. What a surprise.

A lot of these food scares are exaggerated IMO as l little bit of everything in moderation hurts nobody.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49877237

The findings, published in Annals of Internal Medicine, suggest if 1,000 people cut out three portions of red or processed meat every week for:

- a lifetime, there would be seven fewer deaths from cancer
- 11 years, there would be four fewer deaths from heart disease

And if every week for 11 years, 1,000 people cut out three portions of:
- red meat, there would be six fewer cases of type 2 diabetes
- processed meat, there would be 12 fewer cases of type 2 diabetes

Let's scale that up -

In the UK, there are 37 million people aged between 18 and 59 (let's say these are most at risk), there would be
- a lifetime, there would be 259,000 fewer deaths from cancer
- 11 years, there would be 148,000 fewer deaths from heart disease

And if every week for 11 years, 37,000,000 people cut out three portions of:
- red meat, there would be 222,000 fewer cases of type 2 diabetes
- processed meat, there would be 444,000 fewer cases of type 2 diabetes

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Though I'd bump this thread as new research reveals:



Another unnecessary food scare built on thin evidence. What a surprise.

Fake news, now doubt promoted heavily by the vegan brigade. I have been ignoring the advice of these people on which foods are bad for you for a long time, now. My low carb diet is varied and keeps me pretty well, even with the reasonable quantity of meat I have as part of it.

I will never forgive them for advising against eating butter. I have had to put up with using Flora for many years as a result of that. I use my own judgement these days and give all these pronouncements the common sense test.

Always look to whom has been paying for these studies and research.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Fake news, now doubt promoted heavily by the vegan brigade. I have been ignoring the advice of these people on which foods are bad for you for a long time, now. My low carb diet is varied and keeps me pretty well, even with the reasonable quantity of meat I have as part of it.

I will never forgive them for advising against eating butter. I have had to put up with using Flora for many years as a result of that. I use my own judgement these days and give all these pronouncements the common sense test.

Well l am neither for the vegan brigade or the meat brigade as l have to have a soft food diet which pretty much rules out a awful lot of those foods unless its a soup so no one can accuse me of being biased .

Originally Posted by Hugh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49877237



Let's scale that up -

In the UK, there are 37 million people aged between 18 and 59 (let's say these are most at risk), there would be
- a lifetime, there would be 259,000 fewer deaths from cancer
- 11 years, there would be 148,000 fewer deaths from heart disease

And if every week for 11 years, 37,000,000 people cut out three portions of:
- red meat, there would be 222,000 fewer cases of type 2 diabetes
- processed meat, there would be 444,000 fewer cases of type 2 diabetes

..... which is why the official government advice isn’t changing. The difference to the individual is small, but at the population level is statistically significant and of a scale that has resource implications.

FWIW, almost everyone who stays at my B&B has bacon for breakfast.