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Mr K · 28-12-2020, 20:12

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Originally Posted by Paul

So basically, they are all doom & gloom, as usual.

Or maybe they're just telling it how it is, unlike politicians.

papa smurf · 28-12-2020, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Paul

So basically, they are all doom & gloom, as usual.

Yup, Lock down harder cos that's working so well, ruin all businesses, hide under the table /become a hermit, you know the drill.

**Damien** · 28-12-2020, 22:07

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Yup, Lock down harder cos that's working so well, ruin all businesses, hide under the table /become a hermit, you know the drill.

Lockdown did work. Every lockdown was met with a reduction in the number of cases, followed by the numbers in hospitals and then a reduction in deaths. It may be costly, it may not be sustainable but it did work.

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Major incident in South London as a hospital nearly runs out of oxygen: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-b1779468.html

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A London hospital has declared a major incident over fears about a shortage in oxygen caused by the demand from coronavirus patients on its wards.

The Queen Elizabeth Hospital, in Woolwich, southeast London, was forced to ask London Ambulance Service to take emergency patients to other hospitals on Sunday amid concerns about the flow of oxygen to patients.

It is the latest in a string of London hospitals to declare major incidents in the past 10 days as the capital has been hit by a surge in new Covid-19 infections and hospital admissions.

jfman · 28-12-2020, 22:31

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Or maybe they're just telling it how it is, unlike politicians.

I wonder who will be the first to go public on the debatable merits of widely deploying a 62% vaccine vs a 95% one.

Pierre · 28-12-2020, 23:03

Glad to see “seasonal flu” has decided to piss off for some reason? Just not bothering this year.

Lazy.

**Hugh** · 28-12-2020, 23:09

It might be due to people not mixing as much, and when they’re out and about in shops, they’re wearing masks, and that 30 million people are getting flu shots this year, double the number of last year?

daveeb · 28-12-2020, 23:17

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Originally Posted by Hugh

It might be due to people not mixing as much, and when they’re out and about in shops, they’re wearing masks, and that 30 million people are getting flu shots this year, double the number of last year?

Absolutely right. i know quite a few people (including myself) who had their first ever flu jab as an adult. It's been a good wake up call. And as you say the Covid precautions don't just protect people from Covid.

jfman · 28-12-2020, 23:27

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Glad to see “seasonal flu” has decided to piss off for some reason? Just not bothering this year.

Lazy.

I'm curious what you gain on a personal level from being in perpetual denial. Does it make you sleep better? Do you run a crematorium? I'm truly at a loss as to why someone would be so consistently wrong on a single subject. With millions of 62% vaccines a mere weeks away from deployment this is surely a time to be jolly.

Pierre · 28-12-2020, 23:43

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Originally Posted by jfman

I'm curious what you gain on a personal level from being in perpetual denial

Denial of what?

jfman · 28-12-2020, 23:47

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Denial of what?

The reality/severity of the Covid-19 pandemic and it's impacts on wider healthcare provision.

Pierre · 28-12-2020, 23:54

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The reality/severity of the Covid-19 pandemic and it's impacts on wider healthcare provision.

Never denied it’s “real”

Its “impact” on health care systems is a matter for those systems and those countries.

Do I believe it could have been, and still could be handled better, absolutely.

Are you giving all nations a free pass and a big tick ?

jfman · 28-12-2020, 23:58

Far from it. Some have worked very poorly with the tools at their disposal.

Stephen · 29-12-2020, 08:21

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Originally Posted by Hugh

It might be due to people not mixing as much, and when they’re out and about in shops, they’re wearing masks, and that 30 million people are getting flu shots this year, double the number of last year?

Exactly this.

People are distancing when out as well as wearing facing covering and washing hands a lot more.

However I am at risk due to diabetes, kidney failure and on dialysis, and as yet have still not had my flu shot. Had it every other year (usually in Oct) when GPs were running the scheme. The NHS have dropped the ball in organising it.

**Maggy** · 29-12-2020, 08:50

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Exactly this.

People are distancing when out as well as wearing facing covering and washing hands a lot more.

However I am at risk due to diabetes, kidney failure and on dialysis, and as yet have still not had my flu shot. Had it every other year (usually in Oct) when GPs were running the scheme. The NHS have dropped the ball in organising it.

They have concentrated on the over 60s. However you should have been contacted and I can only suggest that you should chase up with your GP as I had to.

denphone · 29-12-2020, 09:13

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Originally Posted by Maggy

They have concentrated on the over 60s. However you should have been contacted and I can only suggest that you should chase up with your GP as I had to.

l have several long term complex medical conditions and l had my flu jab done in early October and l am in my 50's.