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Old 28-10-2019, 19:00   #1741
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as expected parliament reject General Election
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Old 28-10-2019, 19:09   #1742
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as expected parliament reject General Election
If there’s a way to drag it out...
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Old 28-10-2019, 19:21   #1743
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If there’s a way to drag it out...
and Johnson also wrote a letter accepting the EU extension

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and Johnson always wrote a letter accepting the EU extension
So will he carry out his promise that he would rather be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit.


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So will he carry out his promise that he would rather be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit.


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“I’d rather” is an expression of how one feels about certain things, not a commitment to do one or the other.

Besides, he’s trying very hard to implicate Parliament as the cause of the delay, rather than he himself.
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Just keep on holding an election until you get the right result, it would appear.

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Unions aren't an issue, it'a whether Vauxhall can export its cars and import its components in a timely and therefore cost-effective manner.
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“I’d rather” is an expression of how one feels about certain things, not a commitment to do one or the other.

Besides, he’s trying very hard to implicate Parliament as the cause of the delay, rather than he himself.
it him that suspended the bill because he didn't want it scrutinized not the other way around
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it him that suspended the bill because he didn't want it scrutinized not the other way around
Had debate continued according to the usual timetable then a Brexit extension would still have been necessary to avoid No Deal. What’s your point, exactly? Because all you’ve just done is point out that it is parliament’s rejection of the short timetable that ensured the whole Benn Act process of requesting and accepting an extension would play out.
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Had debate continued according to the usual timetable then a Brexit extension would still have been necessary to avoid No Deal. What’s your point, exactly? Because all you’ve just done is point out that it is parliament’s rejection of the short timetable that ensured the whole Benn Act process of requesting and accepting an extension would play out.
we now got a Brexit extension as he wrote letter to EU accepting it why he scared of scrutiny he could easily bring it back

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we now got a Brexit extension as he wrote letter to EU accepting it why he scared of scrutiny he could easily bring it back
Why he scared? He not scared. He committed to leaving the EU this Thursday. The timetable he proposed was the only way to achieve that. Parliament rejected the timetable and ensured an extension was necessary. Boris might still have gone for a No Deal, of course, but Parliament passed a law that required a request to be made, and gave parliament final approval of the date.

The Brexit extension is Parliament’s doing, against the expressed policy of the government; within that parliamentary maths it is Labour, Lib Dem and SNP doing. Expect that fact to be exploited ruthlessly in the coming election - I wouldn’t fancy being a Labour MP sitting on a wafer thin majority in a constituency that voted Leave.
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I can't wait for the local idiots to come knocking at my door . . if they can be bothered to.

I just wish the house had an overhanging balcony from which to pour the tar & feathers
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So if BJ doesn’t win his vote tonight, he will have another one tomorrow?

Because Conservatives didn’t get enough of a majority in the 2017 General Election, they want to have another General Election.

But we can’t have another Referendum, because "the people have spoken!".

Strange, the people "spoke" in 2015 and said who they wanted to run the country for the next five years, but that didn’t stop the Conservatives holding another one in 2017 and now one in 2019.

Seems legit...
Ridiculous. Parliament agreed to the 2017 election.

The people also spoke in 2016 when they said they wanted to leave the EU.
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Because Conservatives didn’t get enough of a majority in the 2017 General Election, they want to have another General Election.
This Parliament has overstepped it’s remit. The legislators have taken on the role of the executive. In any other Parliament a vote of no confidence would have been taken on this government and a GE would have been undertaken months ago.

This Parliament is not fit for purpose.

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But we can’t have another Referendum, because "the people have spoken!".
You can’t have another democratic exercise on that question as the result of the first democratic exercise has not been undertaken.

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Strange, the people "spoke" in 2015 and said who they wanted to run the country for the next five years, but that didn’t stop the Conservatives holding another one in 2017 and now one in 2019.
The opposition parties demanded a GE because May had not won a GE and May duly agreed because she thought she’d walk it. Parliament, you know that great democratic institution voted for a GE.

Funny that Johnson, also not elected via a GE, and Parliament think that’s fine, and won’t test him in a GE? Go figure.

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there’s no rules anymore. Bercow and the remainer Parliament have ripped up the conventions. We need a new speaker and a new Parliament.
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One good thing is thst despite all the threats, there have been no riots every time a Brexit extension date had been confirmed.
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