UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal
30-10-2019, 09:25
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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I'm afraid they all are. An inconvenient truth that the Brexit Party will doubtless shine a light on.
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All thwarted by remainer Parliament. No don’t the Torres will remind everyone that the reason we are still in the EU and having this election is down to Labour, Lib-Dems and the SNP, along with a few Tory rebels.
Clearly now Lib-Dems / Labour = Remain
Tory/ Brexit = Leave
The unknown quantity is the Brexit Party and how much they will impact the labour / Tory vote.
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30-10-2019, 09:44
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
Isn't Labour's policy a second referendum, LibDems revoke Article 50, Conservatives a deal and Brexit Party no deal?
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30-10-2019, 10:00
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Isn't Labour's policy a second referendum, LibDems revoke Article 50, Conservatives a deal and Brexit Party no deal?
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i think Labour have many different positions on brexit not sure which one will make it to there worthless manifesto.
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30-10-2019, 10:00
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Isn't Labour's policy a second referendum, LibDems revoke Article 50, Conservatives a deal and Brexit Party no deal?
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No Labour policy is to renegotiate the deal so that we stay in the SM & CU (so BRINO) then have a referendum on that deal and remain, where they would campaign for remain.
So the referendum choice would be BRINO or Remain. Not really a choice is it? Plus they would campaign for remain making them a remain party
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30-10-2019, 10:01
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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i think Labour have many different positions on brexit not sure which one will make it to there worthless manifesto.
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Agreed, Labour need to decide their position and quickly.
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30-10-2019, 10:09
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Isn't Labour's policy a second referendum, LibDems revoke Article 50, Conservatives a deal and Brexit Party no deal?
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Labour: We didn't like the referendum result, so we want another one.
Lib Dems: We didn't like the referendum result, so we're cancelling it.
Conservative: We weren't happy with the unexpected result, but we will give it a go.
Brexit: Why are we still here?
UK Voters: eeny, meeny, miny, moe . . that's where the cross will go
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30-10-2019, 10:16
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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No Labour policy is to renegotiate the deal so that we stay in the SM & CU (so BRINO) then have a referendum on that deal and remain, where they would campaign for remain.
So the referendum choice would be BRINO or Remain. Not really a choice is it? Plus they would campaign for remain making them a remain party
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To which the EU would in no doubt be collectively saying WTF?
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30-10-2019, 10:23
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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To which the EU would in no doubt be collectively saying WTF?
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while rolling about on the floor, like a remake of the old 'smash' adverts
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30-10-2019, 10:26
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30-10-2019, 10:34
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
I sense a theme here: Can you trust the Tories?
Boris Johnson repeats his false claim that extending Brexit costs £1 billion a month
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A three month extension to Brexit will cost £1 billion a month.
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No it won’t. The UK would still pay that amount if it left in October under Boris Johnson’s deal.
“They made it inevitable that the people of this country would be retained in the EU against their will for at least another three months, at a cost of another £1 billion a month.”
Boris Johnson, 28 October 2019
“It is a week since this parliament voted, yet again, to force Brussels to keep this country in the European Union for at least another three months, at a cost of £1 billion a month.”
Boris Johnson, 29 October 2019
In the House of Commons this week, Boris Johnson has twice repeated his claim that extending the date of Brexit for three months would cost £1 billion a month.
This is false, as we have said repeatedly. A three month extension costs the UK the same amount in EU budget payments as leaving under Boris Johnson’s own deal on 31 October would have.
Mr Johnson should correct his untrue statements to the House.
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30-10-2019, 17:32
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Erm, those were a year before the 2017 Election - was she just very slow in responding to their "demands"?
Must be a new definition of "snap election" when it happens 12 months later...
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Well, yes..........
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Ooh Sir, Sir...Pierre said there were demands for an election when May became PM, and I say there weren’t.
Stop telling tales in class Hugh, anyway Pierre is correct.
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Course you are (if doing it a year later counts... ).
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Labour: We didn't like the referendum result, so we want another one.
Lib Dems: We didn't like the referendum result, so we're cancelling it.
Conservative: We weren't happy with the unexpected result, but we will give it a go.
Brexit: Why are we still here?
UK Voters: eeny, meeny, miny, moe . . that's where the cross will go
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Conservatives We didn't like the House of Commons General Election vote result, so we want another one.
Conservatives: We didn't like the House of Commons WAB vote result, so we're cancelling it.
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30-10-2019, 19:36
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Apart from anything else, it won't have been Boris who came up with that number, it will have been the Civil Service.
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30-10-2019, 19:38
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
It's not the number, it's Boris and his incorrect use of it.
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30-10-2019, 19:46
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Apart from anything else, it won't have been Boris who came up with that number, it will have been the Civil Service.
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Often you seem to seek a reason why the truth cannot be correct? Just face it, he lied and lied again. This will be his undoing ...
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30-10-2019, 19:54
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
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Often you seem to seek a reason why the truth cannot be correct? Just face it, he lied and lied again. This will be his undoing ...
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Boris doesn't lie. Even when he contradicts himself.
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