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denphone · 09-12-2020, 12:08

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

'The UK’s drug regulator says anyone with a history of “significant” allergic reactions to food, medicine or vaccines should not currently receive the jab'

Somewhat different from the licence, no?

l am allergic to Penicillin and one other antibiotic, does that count me out?.

**Hugh** · 09-12-2020, 12:21

Check with your GP - they will know (when you get a call to get the vaccine).

**Maggy** · 09-12-2020, 12:27

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

'The UK’s drug regulator says anyone with a history of “significant” allergic reactions to food, medicine or vaccines should not currently receive the jab'

Somewhat different from the licence, no?

Probably, possibly the same for other vaccines.

Sephiroth · 09-12-2020, 13:03

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

Can vegans talk it?

IIRC vaccines use chicken eggs to grow it.

Plus all those idiots who say it for a chip to track us, yet they walk around with a mobile phone in their pocket, and some say even if you turn it off it is still on in the background and that is they way "agencies" turn it back on.

I'm back!

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Can vegans talk [take] it?

I love you for that!

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IIRC vaccines use chicken eggs to grow it.

Possibly not in the Pfizer case; possibly so in the Oxford case if my reading is correct.

https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/m...al-flu/585410/

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Since mRNA vaccines use genetic code, the companies could swap out which sequences are used based on sampling done close to when the flu seasons are most severe. Traditional flu vaccines, by contrast, are grown in chicken eggs or insect cells, and consist of inactivated or weakened virus, or viral proteins.

pip08456 · 09-12-2020, 13:04

Oh look, something we didn't already know.

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Appearing before the Science and Technology Committee this morning, Sir Patrick Vallance admitted that “there is no really hard evidence on curfew times”. Under questioning from Greg Clarke, Vallance said the decision to impose the curfew had been based on the assumption “keeping people longer in an environment where there is also alcohol is likely to increase risk”.

1andrew1 · 09-12-2020, 13:07

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Oh look, something we didn't already know.

Yes, apparently the 10pm was just cribbed from the Belgiums.

heero_yuy · 09-12-2020, 13:38

I wonder how many of these experts are teetotal?

nomadking · 09-12-2020, 13:54

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Oh look, something we didn't already know.

South Korea.

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Bars and discos across the South Korean capital Seoul have been closed, after the sudden outbreak raised fears of a second wave.

Thailand

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BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand issued a new coronavirus warning to the party-going public on Friday after a cluster of 13 cases was traced to a group of friends who shared cigarettes and drinks.

Just takes one infected person to infect dozens of others.

papa smurf · 09-12-2020, 14:12

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

I wonder how many of these experts are teetotal?

I wonder how many of them have a life outside work.

pip08456 · 09-12-2020, 14:43

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Originally Posted by nomadking

South Korea.
Thailand
Just takes one infected person to infect dozens of others.

This has what relation to curfews?

Carth · 09-12-2020, 14:43

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

I wonder how many of them have a life outside work.

I'd suggest many of them are simply algorithms running on outdated computers, whirring away in a dark corner of some long forgotten office and churning out remedies and solutions a witch doctor would be proud of

nomadking · 09-12-2020, 15:17

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Originally Posted by pip08456

This has what relation to curfews?

Outbreaks as a result of not having a curfew.
Don't see how a mass of evidence either way, could be presented, as this is a new situation.
Plus in both instances, just one infected person is blamed. Doesn't take much.
More enough people currently behaving like idiots when sober, without bringing alcohol into it.

**Hugh** · 09-12-2020, 15:25

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Originally Posted by Carth

I'd suggest many of them are simply algorithms running on outdated computers, whirring away in a dark corner of some long forgotten office and churning out remedies and solutions a witch doctor would be proud of

Thats the sort of thing a bot would suggest...

pip08456 · 09-12-2020, 15:32

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Outbreaks as a result of not having a curfew.
Don't see how a mass of evidence either way, could be presented, as this is a new situation.
Plus in both instances, just one infected person is blamed. Doesn't take much.
More enough people currently behaving like idiots when sober, without bringing alcohol into it.

So the virus knows what time it is and won't infect you before 10.00pm but will at 10.01.

In the 2 instances you quoted there was no curfew introduced.

jonbxx · 09-12-2020, 15:33

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Originally Posted by denphone

l am allergic to Penicillin and one other antibiotic, does that count me out?.

Looking at the formulation on page 9 here - https://assets.publishing.service.go...fessionals.pdf there's no antibiotic present.

The 'TLDR' answer is that there just seems to be some weird fats, some conjugated with inert polymers which form the 'shell' of the active vaccine, the mRNA itself and some benign salts and sugars which we have in our bodies anyway.

If it's the fats which are causing the issue, that's a big problem as they are key for the mRNA delivery in to the cell. That said, if the reactions were common, they would be picked up during clinical trials.

What's missing from all the headlines is what were these two people affected allergic to. If they are clinical staff, my bet would be latex...