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Old 05-12-2018, 13:44   #4801
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Pretty good OB but what is disappointing for many BBC viewers is the amount of series they made where the rights have been sold on to other companies.
Isn't the other way around though?

The BBC are required to commission shows from independent producers, but in such a way that those producers retain the rights to the shows, rather than the BBC.
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Just hope they're easier to navigate than the current boxsets.

Unlike Netflix or Amazon Prime, there seems to be no easy way to browse them that I can see, but you have to go into Episode 1 and then scroll through the whole thing to skip to further episodes.

If I'm doing it wrong, happy to be corrected!
Glad to see that I'm not the only one annoyed about that on TV version of iPlayer.

I do wonder if it's different if you log in though. I'm not going to do that until they force it, which given the prompts is coming soon.

The reason I've not logged in is other people in house have different tastes, so though I'm happy to log in on my own devices I'm not on the main TV.
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Isn't the other way around though?

The BBC are required to commission shows from independent producers, but in such a way that those producers retain the rights to the shows, rather than the BBC.
What about the many older series of which there are many which were completely made by the BBC.
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Old 05-12-2018, 14:07   #4804
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Glad to see that I'm not the only one annoyed about that on TV version of iPlayer.

I do wonder if it's different if you log in though. I'm not going to do that until they force it, which given the prompts is coming soon.
No, it's not.

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The reason I've not logged in is other people in house have different tastes, so though I'm happy to log in on my own devices I'm not on the main TV.
The TV iPlayer does support profiles so you can all log in:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/h...o_is_signed_in

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What about the many older series of which there are many which were completely made by the BBC.
Such as?
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There are literally many many older very popular series going back many decades which the BBC have in their archives and thus so far most of them have never seen the light of day.
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OB both Sky and VM have been delivering live TV over IP for a good while with their TV Anywhere , Sky Go and Now TV products.
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Old 05-12-2018, 14:20   #4807
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There are literally many many older very popular series going back many decades which the BBC have in their archives and thus so far most of them have never seen the light of day.
Of that I have no doubt. But where is it that they've been sold off where the BBC retained the ownership and still have the complete rights to broadcast them?
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Old 05-12-2018, 15:28   #4808
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The TV iPlayer does support profiles so you can all log in:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/h...o_is_signed_in
Oh fantastic! I had no idea iPlayer had that on the TV version. Looks very Netflix-esque in its implementation.

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Old 05-12-2018, 16:38   #4809
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Just hope they're easier to navigate than the current boxsets.

Unlike Netflix or Amazon Prime, there seems to be no easy way to browse them that I can see, but you have to go into Episode 1 and then scroll through the whole thing to skip to further episodes.

If I'm doing it wrong, happy to be corrected!
You can search the programme and then pick the appropriate episode you want to see. I agree, it could be better!

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Pretty good OB but what is disappointing for many BBC viewers is the amount of series they made where the rights have been sold on to other companies.
If they were sold on as 'exclusives', I agree, but they may have retained the right to make them available on the i-Player as well.

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Isn't the other way around though?

The BBC are required to commission shows from independent producers, but in such a way that those producers retain the rights to the shows, rather than the BBC.
Yes, I think you are right on that, which is a shame, but I suppose needs must. I think that arrangement might be cheaper for the BBC, which would mean they could commission more shows for their channels.

However, with the need to compete with SVOD services and the fact that scheduled tv will diminish over the coming years, they may have to review their strategy.

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OB both Sky and VM have been delivering live TV over IP for a good while with their TV Anywhere , Sky Go and Now TV products.
I know, MM, but what I am saying is that TV over the internet will increase with time. Plans are already being made by some satellite broadcasters for the day when broadcasts will no longer be delivered this way.

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You can search the programme and then pick the appropriate episode you want to see. I agree, it could be better!

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If they were sold on as 'exclusives', I agree, but they may have retained the right to make them available on the i-Player as well.
Well we shall see OB as it is rather disappointing viewers don't get to see some of the older content.
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Pretty good OB but what is disappointing for many BBC viewers is the amount of series they made where the rights have been sold on to other companies.
They often never owned the rights in the first place, beyond first-run and some influence over creative direction. It keeps costs down.
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Does anyone know why Eurosport Player has disappeared from the 'apps and games' section of the TV menu?

I've heard that the player was not up to scratch. Is this true? Will it be missed?
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Does anyone know why Eurosport Player has disappeared from the 'apps and games' section of the TV menu?

I've heard that the player was not up to scratch. Is this true? Will it be missed?
It was a vastly cut down version and wasn't the same as the mobile/tablet version, it only had news bulletins, not the sports events streams that you pay extra for. They shouldn't have used the same name for it.
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Now, AT&T in the States has abandoned the use of satellites, saying that it will not launch any more. Only a matter of time now before Sky makes a similar announcement.

I would imagine that in 10 - 15 years, Sky will cease to broadcast any more by satellite in favour of their new IPTV system about to be launched in the UK.

http://www.csimagazine.com/csi/ATT-s...-streaming.php
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