PM Boris forms a government

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I would always vote for JR. I hope he's in Boris' cabinet to maintain some degree of sanity.

Yes, I can see that if you have high regard for your local MP, that would be a factor - indeed, it is the local MP you are voting for technically. However, if my highly regarded MP was a member of a political party that had a leader that I thought would be bad news, I would change my allegiance.

[denphone]

The latest polling by ComRes commissioned by Britain Elects.

http://britainelects.com/2019/07/19/...een-delivered/

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I quite liked his bendy buses and Boris bikes....

Sorry to break it to you, but bendy buses weren’t BJ’s idea - Boris actually cancelled the bendy buses; when he campaigned in 2007, he said that "his first act as mayor of London would be to scrap bendy buses"...

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Sorry to break it to you, but bendy buses weren’t BJ’s idea - Boris actually cancelled the bendy buses; when he campaigned in 2007, he said that "his first act as mayor of London would be to scrap bendy buses"...

... and good job too. They were un-navigable in parts of London, made you feel sick and caught fire.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I quite liked his bendy buses and Boris bikes....

The bikes were Ken Livingstone, it's just the actual rollout happened under Boris.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Sorry to break it to you, but bendy buses weren’t BJ’s idea - Boris actually cancelled the bendy buses; when he campaigned in 2007, he said that "his first act as mayor of London would be to scrap bendy buses"...

And actually this is a plus for Boris since the new Routemasters are really nice and also better represent London. A red double decker bus is London's style after all.

They need to pass a law to make Taxis black rather than these ones that have adverts all over too.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

The bikes were Ken Livingstone, it's just the actual rollout happened under Boris.

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And actually this is a plus for Boris since the new Routemasters are really nice and also better represent London. A red double decker bus is London's style after all.

They need to pass a law to make Taxis black rather than these ones that have adverts all over too.

The bikes were a TfL initiative, not a Ken Livingstone idea. Both mayors benefitted from a competent transport body. However, TfL advised against the new routemasters as the £60k-a-bus cost of a conductor was too expensive and that ended quite quickly making them unnecessary.

Rather than people listing Boris's failures, it might be better to try and understand him a bit better. This article is helpful. https://www.nybooks.com/articles/201...n-ham-of-fate/

[denphone]

Philip Hammond plans to quit if Johnson becomes PM.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49062514

Mr Hammond said a no-deal Brexit, something Mr Johnson has left open as an option, was "not something I could ever sign up to".

Asked if he thought he would be sacked next week, he said he would resign on Wednesday to Theresa May.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

Philip Hammond plans to quit if Johnson becomes PM.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49062514

Resign or get sacked are his only options,if may was any kind of leader she would sack him on monday.

BJ in today’s Telegraph (his other employer).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...mpression=true

"If they could use hand-knitted computer code to make a frictionless re-entry to Earth’s atmosphere in 1969, we can solve the problem of frictionless trade at the Northern Irish border"

a) It wasn’t frictionless - the whole method of re-entry was using the Earth’s atmosphere to friction brake the capsule; all that wasted money, time, and effort with heat shields, then, and all those ablative tiles on the shuttle. The Apollo 11 hitting the Pacific Ocean at 11 km/s would have been the result of frictionless reentry, so I fear BJ’s plan may crash and burn just as spectacularly.

b) 400,000 people worked on the Apollo programme at a total cost of a quarter trillion dollars, and it took 8 years. MIT designed and built the Apollo guidance computer. The issues were vast and exceptionally complex, and its design ground breaking

Once again, BJ doesn’t know what he’s talking about (or doesn’t care, because he thinks a sound bite is better than actuality).

[denphone]

It might just crash and burn before that Hugh..

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...n-brexit-plans

Boris Johnson’s hoped-for triumphant march into Downing Street this week is set to be dampened by a carefully timed series of resignations by senior ministers, who will retreat to the backbenches with a vow to thwart any moves towards a no-deal Brexit.

However, by the time MPs return at the start of September, Johnson’s difficulties could have multiplied, with the Lib Dems tipped to take the Brecon and Radnorshire seat from the Tories in an early August byelection.

While senior Lib Dem sources have played down reports that up to six disgruntled remain-minded Conservatives could defect to the party, they say enough are considering the move to potentially remove the rest of Johnson’s working majority.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by denphone

It might just crash and burn before that Hugh..

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...n-brexit-plans

Just another example of the current attitude of "democracy must not prevail". Whatever democratic decision is arrived at, is not to be allowed to continue. What is the point of voting if only the permitted result is allowed? At least countries like North Korea don't hide it or pretend otherwise.

[Mr K]

Ex

Originally Posted by nomadking

Just another example of the current attitude of "democracy must not prevail". Whatever democratic decision is arrived at, is not to be allowed to continue. What is the point of voting if only the permitted result is allowed? At least countries like North Korea don't hide it or pretend otherwise.

Are you referring to the vote making Mr Blobby PM? Or the refusal to have a confirmatory vote on any EU deal?

Originally Posted by Hugh

BJ in today’s Telegraph (his other employer).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...mpression=true


a) It wasn’t frictionless - the whole method of re-entry was using the Earth’s atmosphere to friction brake the capsule; all that wasted money, time, and effort with heat shields, then, and all those ablative tiles on the shuttle. The Apollo 11 hitting the Pacific Ocean at 11 km/s would have been the result of frictionless reentry, so I fear BJ’s plan may crash and burn just as spectacularly.

b) 400,000 people worked on the Apollo programme at a total cost of a quarter trillion dollars, and it took 8 years. MIT designed and built the Apollo guidance computer. The issues were vast and exceptionally complex, and its design ground breaking

Once again, BJ doesn’t know what he’s talking about (or doesn’t care, because he thinks a sound bite is better than actuality).

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Resign or get sacked are his only options,if may was any kind of leader she would sack him on monday.

Perhaps she thinks it might be salutary for BJ to experience just how hard it is to herd the present government into any agreement. A taste of his own medicine in other words.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Ex

Are you referring to the vote making Mr Blobby PM? Or the refusal to have a confirmatory vote on any EU deal?

The democratic selection of Boris is not being accepted in certain quarters, along with the referendum vote.



There ISN'T a deal on offer from the EU to either accept or refuse. The Withdrawal Agreement is not a deal. This is the only mention of the word "deal".

(i) requests in accordance with Article 39 of the Schengen Implementing Convention that
are received before the end of the transition period by the central body responsible in
the Contracting Party for international police cooperation or by competent authorities of
the requested Party, or by requested police authorities which do not have the power to
deal with the request, but which forward the request to the competent authorities;

There is nothing on the table that would be in place in 2021 and beyond.

They accept his selection, but have the democratic right to choose not to serve in his Government - you know, like BJ (and others) did when they resigned from Government posts...