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Old 24-03-2019, 23:32   #16
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Re: Russia-Trump inquiry: Special Counsel Robert Mueller ends Russia investigation

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If the Mueller Report actually did totally exonerate this administration, then it would already be public. Trump himself would have released it from Mar A Lago, instead of tweeting...

Wait for the full, unedited release of the report, not the Trump appointee report from the man who wrote an Op-Ed before he was appointed stating that there was no way Trump could be found guilty.

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So I can’t reply to points you raise, that you’ve raised previously?
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Re: Russia-Trump inquiry: Special Counsel Robert Mueller ends Russia investigation

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Trump-Russia investigation: Mueller letter to Barr criticising attorney general's 'no collusion' summary leaked

Robert Mueller’s letter to William Barr, in which he criticised the attorney general over a summary of his report on the Trump-Russia investigation, has been released online.

In the letter, the special counsel said he was concerned the public could be confused by the four-page summary that Mr Barr sent to senior members of Congress.

"The summary letter the Department sent to Congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March 24 did not full capture the context, natures and substance of this Office's work and conclusions," the note reads.

It continues: "There is new public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation. This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel: to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations."
Full letter here - https://www.washingtonpost.com/conte...nl_most&wpmm=1
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Re: Russia-Trump inquiry: Special Counsel Robert Mueller ends Russia investigation

Full (redacted) Muller report HERE
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Re: Russia-Trump inquiry: Special Counsel Robert Mueller ends Russia investigation

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Full (redacted) Muller report HERE
AKA Mueller Lite.
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Re: Russia-Trump inquiry: Special Counsel Robert Mueller ends Russia investigation

Still wondering what the sum total of any "collusion" was meant to have been. No inside information was even suggested to have been used. Anything that was even alleged, didn't need any collusion. Any collusion was all by the Clinton campaign.
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Re: Russia-Trump inquiry: Special Counsel Robert Mueller ends Russia investigation

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AKA Mueller Lite.
AKA the only report the public will be able to see. The Muller team worked alongside the AG's team to make as much as possible open to the public.
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Still wondering what the sum total of any "collusion" was meant to have been. No inside information was even suggested to have been used. Anything that was even alleged, didn't need any collusion. Any collusion was all by the Clinton campaign.
They didn’t investigate collusion, as that is not a specific offence under US Federal Law.
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They didn’t investigate collusion, as that is not a specific offence under US Federal Law.
This thread is about supposed "collusion".
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This thread is about supposed "collusion".
No, it’s not - it’s about the Mueller investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 US elections (which the report confirmed happened), and any matters arising from that investigation (including any possible obstruction of justice).
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Re: Russia-Trump inquiry: Special Counsel Robert Mueller ends Russia investigation

Um, yes it is about Collusion. It’s been about this, since Trump won. Now Mueller found none. The stupid Democrats are trying to pin Obstruction on him. The DNC really has become a pathetic loser party, using DOJ as a political weapon. This party doesn’t deserve to hold any kind of power again.
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No, it’s not - it’s about the Mueller investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 US elections (which the report confirmed happened), and any matters arising from that investigation (including any possible obstruction of justice).
The clue is the "Russia-Trump" bit of the thread title.
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Re: Russia-Trump inquiry: Special Counsel Robert Mueller ends Russia investigation

"Collusion" was first put about by Trump and his supporters, as they knew he couldn’t be charged with it as it isn’t a crime under Federal Law - so they could always claim "there was no collusion" no matter what happened; it’s called changing the agenda to distract from what actually happened, which was that the Russians actively subverted the Election to support and attack Clinton (as stated in the report) - Trump (and his supporters) won’t accept this as they feel it distracts from his victory.

It also states that the Trump Campaign expected to benefit electorally from the information stolen and released through Russian efforts (criminal acts that people have been charged with).
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Re: Russia-Trump inquiry: Special Counsel Robert Mueller ends Russia investigation

Phishing attempts were also made on the Republican campaigns. It's just that they failed for one reason or another. The general public get phishing attempts, so why should this be any different? Plenty of hackers outside Russia, especially in the UK, that "attack" the US.



No suggestion of foreign interference here.
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The implication from the leaked emails is that a $12m donation from the king of Morocco was dependent on Mrs Clinton attending the summit.
"Her presence was a condition for the Moroccans to proceed so there is no going back on this," Abedin wrote to campaign manager Robbie Mook in a November 2014 email.
In the end, Mrs Clinton decided not to attend and sent husband Bill and daughter Chelsea instead. There is no record of a $12m donation.
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Donna Brazile, the former CNN contributor, notified the Clinton campaign in advance of a question she would be asked at a town hall-style event hosted by the cable network in March, according to the leaked emails.
"From time to time I get the questions in advance," Ms Brazile, now chair of the Democratic National Party (DNC), wrote in the subject line of a 12 March email to Clinton aides.
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Russia, Russia, Russia! That’s all you heard at the beginning of this Witch Hunt Hoax...And now Russia has disappeared because I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected. It was a crime that didn’t exist. So now the Dems and their partner, the Fake News Media,.....

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