U.S Election 2020

Originally Posted by Stephen

You surely mean Vice President Elect Harris, and President Elect Biden.

They have not been officially certified as such. Electoral College electors doesn’t meet until December and then the final official certification happens in January by Congress and Vice President Pence.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Mick

They have not been officially certified as such. Electoral College electors doesn’t meet until December and then the final official certification happens in January by Congress and Vice President Pence.

So Fox News were wrong when they said this in November 2016?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...election-upset

Speaking to cheering supporters early Wednesday morning at his victory party in New York City, the Republican candidate and now president-elect said Clinton called to congratulate him, and Fox News confirms she has conceded. Despite their hard-fought campaign, Trump praised Clinton for her service and said “it is time for us to come together as one united people.”

And our own government

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/p...-november-2016

PM call with President-elect Donald Trump: 10 November 2016

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Oh and Donald Trump on 21st November 2016

https://www.c-span.org/video/?418955...-lays-100-days

In a video message, President-elect Donald Trump shared an update on the presidential transition, an outline of some of his policy plans for the first 100 days, and his day-one executive actions. Topics included withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal, reducing restrictions on energy production, and reduction of the number of regulations.

We've usually use President-Elect after someone is the assumed winner of the election. Obama and Trump were both called President Elect after the projections from the news networks.

But it’s not official, it was not official in 2016, so yes Fox News was wrong, if me saying that floats your boat, BenMcr.

But it's never really official is it? There is no official constitutional role of President-Elect IIRC.

Originally Posted by Damien

But it's never really official is it? There is no official constitutional role of President-Elect IIRC.

Correct. There is no “Office of President-Elect”.

Here’s another thing, Joe Biden is not yet authorised to see Classified intelligence. Kamala Harris, is through Senate intelligence committee, because she is still a sitting Senator, Joe Biden kinda potentially threw her under the bus yesterday, by saying it was a good thing Kamala still gets intelligence briefings through her Senate office, she is legally not allowed to share this classified intel with him.

https://www.wrn.com/2020/11/plaintif...nsin-counties/

MADISON, Wis. — The final Wisconsin county submitted its canvassed vote totals to the state elections commission on Tuesday morning, starting the clock for President Donald Trump to file for a recount as he has promised supporters he would.

The canvassed totals show Democrat Joe Biden beat Trump by 20,612 votes, which is about six-tenths of a point margin — close enough for Trump to file for a recount.

He has until 5 p.m. on Wednesday to submit the $7.9 million estimated cost for a statewide recount and other required paperwork. Trump could also file for a recount only in select counties, which would reduce his cost and allow him to target areas where votes were predominantly for Biden. Counties would have to start the recount no later than Saturday and complete it by Dec. 1.

Trump’s Wisconsin campaign spokesperson did not immediately return an email from The Associated Press seeking comment.

The canvassed results, which included provisional ballots not counted on Election Day, changed little from the unofficial results posted earlier.

https://www.wrn.com/2020/11/plaintif...nsin-counties/

Plaintiffs withdraw lawsuit over ballots in three Wisconsin counties
NOVEMBER 16, 2020 BY RAYMOND NEUPERT

A lawsuit that sought to toss out all votes cast in Milwaukee, Dane and Menominee Counties has been withdrawn by the plaintiffs. The three counties had the highest percentage of votes cast for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, 82%, 75% and 65% respectively, out of Wisconsin’s 72 counties.

That lawsuit was filed last week in U.S. District Court in Green Bay by three voters who claimed that voter fraud caused their own ballots to be “diluted.” The suit made claims that absentee voting was rampant with abuse, and was one of several similar lawsuits filed in several battleground states.

No evidence was ever provided to back up the claims made in the lawsuits. Court records indicate the suit was withdrawn Monday, prior to a scheduled hearing.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Damien

But it's never really official is it? There is no official constitutional role of President-Elect IIRC.

The term is in the constitution:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenti...s_Constitution

The Twentieth Amendment (Amendment XX) to the United States Constitution moved the beginning and ending of the terms of the president and vice president from March 4 to January 20, and of members of Congress from March 4 to January 3. It also has provisions that determine what is to be done when there is no president-elect. The Twentieth Amendment was adopted on January 23, 1933.

But it doesn't define when someone becomes President-elect. That's seems to be separate via this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presid..._United_States

Since 1963, U.S. federal law has empowered the General Services Administration to determine who the apparent election winner is and to help facilitate the basic functioning of the president-elect's transition team

But it does seem to be unofficial until the GSA completes their action.

[papa smurf]

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21043...raq?s=web_push

Trump orders Pentagon to pull 2,500 troops from Afghanistan and Iraq


President Trump has ordered the Pentagon to pull 2,500 U.S. troops from Afghanistan and Iraq by mid-January, acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller announced Tuesday. The Defense Department will cut the number of troops in Afghanistan from 4,500 to 2,500 and the number of forces in Iraq from 3,000 to 2,500 by Jan. 15, days before Trump is set to leave office.

Great, now he’s throwing a geopolitical rattle out of his pram.

No different to Obama leaving office in 2017, Chris when he rattled Russia with sanctions, just when Trump was entering office.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

Great, now he’s throwing a geopolitical rattle out of his pram.

I don't put it past him to push the big red button then retire to his bunker....

[richard s]

Originally Posted by Mr K

I don't put it past him to push the big red button then retire to his bunker....

Let's hope he and the bomb are in the bunker when it goes off.

Originally Posted by Mr K

I don't put it past him to push the big red button then retire to his bunker....

While the ultimate authority lies with the president to authorise a nuclear strike, he cannot start and declare a war without congressional approval, the only time he can, is in a emergency situation, when the U.S is being attacked itself or it's territories.

Congress has declared war 11 times, including its first declaration of war with us truly, Great Britain in 1812.

Nobody in the U.K wind up Trump before January ok? Happy faces.

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The Trump Campaign loses another case in Pennsylvania. This time about how far from the count their observers were.