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Old 29-06-2022, 23:10   #616
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Farage is one of the most effective politicians of the last few decades. I think Great Man is a bit strong. Churchill was a great man. Farage has plenty of flaws. He often struggles on topics outside his chosen domain of Brexit and has a bit of an ego complex. There was a reason Vote Leave sidelined him. A complex man who has achieved quite a lot would be more accurate IMO.
To put it succinctly, he has done more to change the U.K. than any of the current career politicians in the house, and he did it whilst not being an MP
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Old 29-06-2022, 23:22   #617
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To put it succinctly, he has done more to change the U.K. than any of the current career politicians in the house, and he did it whilst not being an MP
He was one of the longest career politicians there is, and did most of it whilst being paid as an MEP.

But that doesn't detract from his impact.

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Old 29-06-2022, 23:37   #618
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To put it succinctly, he has done more to change the U.K. than any of the current career politicians in the house, and he did it whilst not being an MP
True. We're a lot worse off for it too.
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Old 30-06-2022, 08:08   #619
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True. We're a lot worse off for it too.
In your utter ridiculous opinion.
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Old 30-06-2022, 12:30   #620
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Farage is one of the most effective politicians of the last few decades. I think Great Man is a bit strong. Churchill was a great man. Farage has plenty of flaws. He often struggles on topics outside his chosen domain of Brexit and has a bit of an ego complex. There was a reason Vote Leave sidelined him. A complex man who has achieved quite a lot would be more accurate IMO.
Absolutely agree. He is an excellent communicator who is extremely good at batting away criticisms or other points of view while reinforcing his own point of view.

Even if you don't agree with his views (and I certain don't, many are horrible) you have to admire how good he is at putting them across
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Maybe Nige should take a temporary job with Network Rail and negotiate with lynch
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Absolutely agree. He is an excellent communicator who is extremely good at batting away criticisms or other points of view while reinforcing his own point of view.

Even if you don't agree with his views (and I certain don't, many are horrible) you have to admire how good he is at putting them across
Not so sure about that, as Hugh said he's failed to get into Parliament 7 times. He appeals to a minority who have the same views anyway.
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Not so sure about that, as Hugh said he's failed to get into Parliament 7 times. He appeals to a minority who have the same views anyway.
Yeah - a minority of 52%
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Yeah - a minority of 52%
Even if that was all for Farage which is highly likely it wasn't, that's 52% of the number of people that voted at the time.

27.8% didn't vote and that doesn't count those that became eligible after that.
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Even if that was all for Farage which is highly likely it wasn't, that's 52% of the number of people that voted at the time.

27.8% didn't vote and that doesn't count those that became eligible after that.
99% of that 27.8% who didn't vote agreed with Farage. Prove me wrong.
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Old 30-06-2022, 16:51   #626
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He appeals to a minority who have the same views anyway.
That’s usually how “appealing” usually works.
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99% of that 27.8% who didn't vote agreed with Farage. Prove me wrong.
You are the one putting forward the proposition - back it up...
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You are the one putting forward the proposition - back it up...
They did not vote so no-one knows what they think,thought or whatever.

I could be totally wrong or totally right, that's why those who don't vote should be discounted from any result. Ben was the one who decided to mention them.
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Not so sure about that, as Hugh said he's failed to get into Parliament 7 times. He appeals to a minority who have the same views anyway.
4 Million people voted for UKIP, during his reign as leader, that’s not a minority.

Your lefty bullshit appeals to a lot far few more.

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They did not vote so no-one knows what they think,thought or whatever.

I could be totally wrong or totally right, that's why those who don't vote should be discounted from any result. Ben was the one who decided to mention them.
It’s total idiocy to start going over numbers. End of the day, 1.5 Million voted to leave more than remain, why are we even going over this FFS, not a dig at you pip, but it needs to bloody stop.
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4 Million people voted for UKIP, during his reign as leader, that’s not a minority.

Your lefty bullshit appeals to a lot far few more
Isn't his latest Party of choice this week 'Reform UK'? They aren't doing so well in the polls compared to lefty Labour. Greens have double the support.
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