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Old 25-01-2021, 12:01   #31
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Re: Password managers

2FA doesn't always mean password plus device.

Essentially think of security as
something you know (password)
something you have (hardware)
something you are (e.g. fingerprint)

2FA means you need 2 of one of those to authenticate. So you could have a hardware dongle that unlocks with your finger print connected to you PC and that could provide 2FA. But normally it is password plus some other factor.

My issue is more what that other things is. I don't have a mobile phone of my own and don't always have my work one with me. So text message does me no good. I have used Google Authenticator and that's OK if my tablet is with me. You can't seem to set up the same "Authenticator" on multiple devices.
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Old 25-01-2021, 12:03   #32
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Re: Password managers

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You should be a salesman.

You can post long arguments all day if you want, but you wont change my opinion.

Its an unnecessary pain I dont need, and a waste of my time, having to dig out a bloody phone everytime I wont to login to something (and just to rub it in, get timed out after a few minutes).

You are obviously one of those who thinks everyone lives their life tied to a smart phone.

I dont (nor do I even have one).

Im not going to waste any more time on it, you think its great, I dont.

This topic is about Password Managers, so back to the subject.
My biggest concern was that you may not have understood what 2FA offers, how it works or why it is important. Your comment about smartphones has goes quite a way in reinforcing that for you. You do not need a smartphone at all for 2FA. You can install 2FA authentication applications on any computer. Obviously, installing it on the same computer you user your auto-fill password manager on is not advisable, but it certainly is possible and workable to do so. Just don't let your machine get stolen. Perhaps build a 20ft wall around your home or something.
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Old 25-01-2021, 12:12   #33
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My biggest concern was that you may not have understood what 2FA offers, how it works or why it is important. Your comment about smartphones has goes quite a way in reinforcing that for you. You do not need a smartphone at all for 2FA. You can install 2FA authentication applications on any computer. Obviously, installing it on the same computer you user your auto-fill password manager on is not advisable, but it certainly is possible and workable to do so. Just don't let your machine get stolen. Perhaps build a 20ft wall around your home or something.
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Old 25-01-2021, 12:31   #34
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My issue is more what that other things is. I don't have a mobile phone of my own and don't always have my work one with me. So text message does me no good.
IIRC these days if a text is sent to a standard phone it is intercepted, the system calls that line and "reads" the text to you.
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Old 25-01-2021, 12:38   #35
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2FA can be a pain in the rear to.

When it asks u for example to choose all pics that has a bus in them it doesnt always work especially if ur using a VPN it all goes to pot.
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2FA can be a pain in the rear to.

When it asks u for example to choose all pics that has a bus in them it doesnt always work especially if ur using a VPN it all goes to pot.
That isn't 2fa i don't think.
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i always thought it was a sort of 2FA.
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Re: Password managers

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You can install 2FA authentication applications on any computer. Obviously, installing it on the same computer you user your auto-fill password manager on is not advisable, but it certainly is possible and workable to do so. Just don't let your machine get stolen. Perhaps build a 20ft wall around your home or something.
Being a smartass doesnt make your point any better.

I look forward to hearing how my bank will send their SMS codes to my PC.

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i always thought it was a sort of 2FA.
Not really.

However, the memorable word I need for most banks is already a kind of 2FA, knowing the password alone would not get you far.
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Old 25-01-2021, 22:09   #39
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Re: Password managers

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Being a smartass doesnt make your point any better.
it does make people giggle though I mean, you can't blame me - you practically fed me the opportunity! lol. It would have been ruder to let it pass me by.
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Re: Password managers

If your bank is the same as mine which is Lloyds u need a username, password and then choose 3 characters from a memorable word so the longer the word the better the security mine is 12 Characters long.
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