General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by jfman

Not on Sky, they raised the price and removed the add on.

Thanks I did think so - I hope Virgin Media UK do the same when the time comes to sign an new deal.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The economics of my arguments are perfectly sound, jfman.

I'd be grateful if you could share the detail then.

[Horizon]

I'm not sure if I've understood all the arguments being made over the last few pages, but here's my stance again on things:

If and it is a if, the other media cos like Disney withhold their content from Sky in the future to use on their own streaming services, then it obviously will impact Sky's linear tv service.

Comcast has an immense amount of content under its Universal and NBC arms, but there is no way Sky can run a dozen plus film channels with just Universal content, something has to give somewhere. Which is why I think over time Sky's linear service will morph into a pure streaming service or a hybrid linear/streaming service.

Lets see if Sky actually launches their full IPTV service in the UK now. A few years ago when Sky first mentioned it, it sounded a good idea, now it would be madness. Better to concentrate efforts on streaming and let someone else handle all the god channels, shopping channels etc. Also, lets see if Sky want/are allowed to aggregate the other streamers on their service.

The elephant in the room is whether the media cos can make enough dosh by removing their own content from existing pay tv services/linear channels in favour of keeping the stuff on their own streamers and essentially ripping up a lifetime of doing things. It's a major risk for them, which is why they're all late to the streaming game and to take on Netflix.

They may all succeed, or they may not, but on these sort of things I just get back to basics. If people want Star Wars, they'll go to whatever place has it. The same for all other "key" content. As Netflix has shown with Friends and why Netflix has paid Warner huge amounts of dosh to keep Friends on Netflix for another year is that not all content is the same. Some is more equal than others (excuse the Animal Farm quote there) like Friends, Star Wars, Star Trek, Game of Thrones being in that category.



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Originally Posted by jfman

I don’t know how you conclude the fact May has come and gone as irrelevant, it suggests (if a deal isn’t concluded) that there’s the possibility of something snagging. Like a valuation of key content, like Sky Atlantic for example.

I think the "key" bit is the snag here regarding valuations and carriage negotiations.

Is Sky Atlantic key now that Game of Thrones has ended and Warner will likely keep the new Game of Thrones show exclusively on their streaming service when it launches?

[cheekyangus]

The deal Sky made was for all HBO content (that wasn't on other channels at the time the deal was made) up to a certain date. Warner wouldn't be able to withhold a particular show, Sky would get the new GoT spin-off if it launches within the period covered by the agreement. Whether that would cover the life of that show or just the years within the larger agreement I have no idea.

I have a vague recollection it was a 6 year deal when the HBO deal was made, it was certainly a long deal.

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by cheekyangus

The deal Sky made was for all HBO content (that wasn't on other channels at the time the deal was made) up to a certain date. Warner wouldn't be able to withhold a particular show, Sky would get the new GoT spin-off if it launches within the period covered by the agreement. Whether that would cover the life of that show or just the years within the larger agreement I have no idea.

I have a vague recollection it was a 6 year deal when the HBO deal was made, it was certainly a long deal.

Sky will have exclusive first-run rights to broadcast shows such as Game of Thrones and True Detective to 21 million Sky subscribers across Europe until 2020.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-within-europe

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by cheekyangus

The deal Sky made was for all HBO content (that wasn't on other channels at the time the deal was made) up to a certain date. Warner wouldn't be able to withhold a particular show, Sky would get the new GoT spin-off if it launches within the period covered by the agreement. Whether that would cover the life of that show or just the years within the larger agreement I have no idea.

I have a vague recollection it was a 6 year deal when the HBO deal was made, it was certainly a long deal.

Do you recall when the deal was made?

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

Sky will have exclusive first-run rights to broadcast shows such as Game of Thrones and True Detective to 21 million Sky subscribers across Europe until 2020.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-within-europe

Oops...

Should've read this post before making mine! Thanks MB.

So, it's unlikely the new GoT show will be covered by the existing deal.

[Itshim]

I have noticed that a show I would like to see is coming in the next few weeks but beyond the current epg is there a way I can flag it?

[1701-e]

Originally Posted by Itshim

I have noticed that a show I would like to see is coming in the next few weeks but beyond the current epg is there a way I can flag it?

Wishlist is the only way until it actually appears.

[fox35]

Although not referred to directly in these 2 very interesting articles, but with the imminent arrival of Amazon Prime Video on the V6 and the Cloud UI Update for the Hub 3, do you think VM might use this opportunity to upgrade the Tivo UI to the new Horizon 4 UI at the same time?
https://www.t3.com/news/virgin-tv-v6...-only-dream-of
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...d-routers.html

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Itshim

I have noticed that a show I would like to see is coming in the next few weeks but beyond the current epg is there a way I can flag it?

If you know the date, time and channel you can set a future manual recording. It will be listed as something like 'to be announced" until the EPG is populated.

You can then either leave it like that, or cancel it and set it to record from the EPG eg if you jeed to set a Series Link.

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MTV OMG becomes MTV Pride from Monday 1st to Sunday 7th July.

[Ddonald2016]

Hi I wonder if some light can be shed. My mum has sky tv, and was going to ditch sky premium channels and was told maybe not to as bt sport is coming to sky sports group of channels for free, then he realised my mum was under contract. He knows she doesn’t want to stay beyond 9th March with sky premium but tried to trick me with a speed boost and resigning a new contract of 18 months

Has anybody heard of bt sports coming to sky sports for free

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Sky will have exclusive first-run rights to broadcast shows such as Game of Thrones and True Detective to 21 million Sky subscribers across Europe until 2020.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-within-europe

And on top of that, there is the more recent HBO Sky co-production joint venture that has given us Chernobyl.
https://variety.com/2017/tv/global/s...igh-end-drama-
1202391006/
https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...ama-powerhouse

Of course, both Sky and HBO have been taken over since the deal was signed but the deal is still very much in place with The Third Day set to start filming soon.

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016

Hi I wonder if some light can be shed. My mum has sky tv, and was going to ditch sky premium channels and was told maybe not to as bt sport is coming to sky sports group of channels for free, then he realised my mum was under contract. He knows she doesn’t want to stay beyond 9th March with sky premium but tried to trick me with a speed boost and resigning a new contract of 18 months

Has anybody heard of bt sports coming to sky sports for free

The official press release about Sky wholesaling BT Sport just says "For Sky customers, they’ll be able to include BT Sport as part of their overall Sky subscription for the first time." The date mentioned is "early 2019" and we're halfway through the year with no confirmed launch date yet.

There have been rumours that Sky might package BT Sport with some of its other packages but there's been nothing definitive on this. I suspect Sky would have to raise the cost of any package that included BT Sport to cover the extra costs though.
https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...of-tv-channels

[muppetman11]

Sky recently increased its TV prices across the entire user base.

[nialli]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Sky recently increased its TV prices across the entire user base.

BT prices up too:

Thousands of BT customers who watch its sports channels will be hit with price rises of up to £48 a year, starting at the end of next month. The telecoms giant has confirmed that customers with the Classic, Essential, Entertainment, Entertainment Plus and Sport Starter deals will pay an extra £1 a month, while there is an increase of £24 a year for those with the Entertainment Starter deal. Those on its Max plan will pay a further £4 a month. All changes come into play on 28 July.

Broadband customers who watch the service via the BT Sport app alone will pay £1 a month more, taking the cost to £11 a month, or £132 a year.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ear-price-rise

[ozsat]

Those on the BT Max plan were told it will be an extra £4 per month from July - or if you take out a new 18 month contract they will freeze the current price for the duration - including any current discounts it would seem.