28-05-2018, 08:39
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by DVD Cinema
I can see the BBC showing Wimbledon in UHD HLG, as they have been trialing UHD for years now and not had the chance yet to show it to the masses. All them blades of grass.
Clashes with the World Cup though.
Trooping The Colour might be in UHD too.
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The planet earth trial in UHD HLG looked amazing. The clearest picture I'd seen with so much detail and vibrant colours.
I also heard good reviews about the other trials the BBC did for the rugby and football matches.
Hopefully they will be able to show some of the world cup in UHD too.
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28-05-2018, 09:05
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
Not forgetting, of course, VM didn't get access to the planet earth series trial in UHD HLG
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28-05-2018, 09:49
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by DVD Cinema
It couldn’t have been under load if it was broadcast and not streamed over the internet, like with BT Vision.
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I was under the impression the Red button stuff needed an internet connection?
If not then I'm not sure why it wouldn't work during the match, but works perfectly now.
Also hoping for some world cup 4Kness, be nice to see some more UHD broadcasts in the future
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28-05-2018, 12:18
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D
Not forgetting, of course, VM didn't get access to the planet earth series trial in UHD HLG
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That's true. The 4k world up might have to be accessed via the tv app instead
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28-05-2018, 12:19
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
I thought I saw somewhere in this forum that the World Cup will not be in UHD in UK - however, I hope you are right.
If not it would seem to be a huge opportunity missed
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28-05-2018, 12:58
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by Raider999
I thought I saw somewhere in this forum that the World Cup will not be in UHD in UK - however, I hope you are right.
If not it would seem to be a huge opportunity missed
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The BBC would be silly if they didn't. Even if they classed it as another trial.
But you're right, it's not guaranteed.
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28-05-2018, 14:26
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj
The BBC would be silly if they didn't.
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If they aren't confident their servers can cope with the demand, they'd be silly if they did.
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28-05-2018, 14:59
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
There’s not many sets that can access BBC HLG anyway.
Was Cup Final broadcast or streamed?
I suspect it is broadcast, as might be the tennis.
Sky broadcast theirs.
BT Vision is streamed, as they have no capacity on Freeview for 4K.
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28-05-2018, 15:46
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by DVD Cinema
There’s not many sets that can access BBC HLG anyway.
Was Cup Final broadcast or streamed?
I suspect it is broadcast, as might be the tennis.
Sky broadcast theirs.
BT Vision is streamed, as they have no capacity on Freeview for 4K.
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You don't need HDR to access HLG. If you have a UHD TV you should be able to get the full benefit of HLG.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/high-dynamic-range
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28-05-2018, 15:50
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by Raider999
I thought I saw somewhere in this forum that the World Cup will not be in UHD in UK - however, I hope you are right.
If not it would seem to be a huge opportunity missed
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I posted this a fortnight ago.
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And I’ve just had a chat with an friend who works at the Beeb (in the technology space), and he said they are planning (but subject to change) to stream the 4K to Sky and iPlayer.
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28-05-2018, 16:43
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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You will get UHD but not the full benefits of HDR as basically your TV isn't compatible with HLG (HDR). 
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28-05-2018, 17:21
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
You will get UHD but not the full benefits of HDR as basically your TV isn't compatible with HLG (HDR). |
It is backward compatible with SDR TVs, so I would have thought that many viewers who cannot get HDR would be able to get HLG.
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28-05-2018, 17:39
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
HLG is essentially HDR just under a different name, it uses different techniques etc that give similar/same results as HDR.
A TV obviously needs to be HLG compatible to enjoy the full affect.
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28-05-2018, 17:43
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
But the BBC only support a select few for UHD playback, in Beta as well. This would help to not overload their servers.
Anyway, i don’t think it is a server issue. The BBC have said that it is technically challenging for them to show live UHD on iPlayer.
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28-05-2018, 17:45
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Re: UHD on Virgin Media
You need support in your TV for HLG. I can't see that being done for SDR UHD TVS, as I can't see a reason to do so.
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