General : ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

[Dave42]

ITV boss Dame Carolyn McCall seeks peace deal in fees war with Virgin Media

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...es-war-virgin/

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Dave42

ITV boss Dame Carolyn McCall seeks peace deal in fees war with Virgin Media

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...es-war-virgin/

Sounds like she has a sensible head on those shoulders. Maybe we'll end up with a Britbox app on our system!

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Sounds like she has a sensible head on those shoulders. Maybe we'll end up with a Britbox app on our system!

Considering it's not available in the UK that would be a no.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Considering it's not available in the UK that would be a no.

I know it's not, but I doubt there are copyright issues given that these are home produced programmes from BBC and ITV, so if they decided to offer this, they could.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I know it's not, but I doubt there are copyright issues given that these are home produced programmes from BBC and ITV, so if they decided to offer this, they could.

It's designed as an overseas product hence the name.

[nodrogd]

More PSB channels joining in. Looks as if Channel 4 are having a scrap with Freesat over carriage deals now:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33706069

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, those of us who remember the days of 5 or fewer channels being available will think that we have less choice these days despite having hundreds of channels to choose from.

The truth is, the choice of good programmes is better than in those days, but spread amongst all of those hundreds of channels in between tons and tons of dross. So they are much harder to find. So hard, in fact, that many don't even bother looking for them any more.

That is why the huge concentration of good quality stuff on Amazon and Netflix is proving so popular, and in time, this method of viewing will be the norm.

Don't know about that OB. Most of my series links are still for the BBC.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Don't know about that OB. Most of my series links are still for the BBC.

You have to remember that OB is not a fan of the BBC.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

You have to remember that OB is not a fan of the BBC.

Not true. The original dramas on the BBC are going from strength to strength.

It's the licence fee I object to because it simply isn't fair to expect people to be required to pay for channels they do not watch.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Don't know about that OB. Most of my series links are still for the BBC.

I take it that you don't look too far for programmes on many of the pay tv channels, then, Mr K!

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Not true. The original dramas on the BBC are going from strength to strength.

It's the licence fee I object to because it simply isn't fair to expect people to be required to pay for channels they do not watch.

Perhaps you should adopt the same attitude to your car tax , car insurance and all the other yearly fees you have to pay OB as that is life and one has to accept even if one does not agree with certain fees one still has to pay it even though it might be through gritted teeth.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by denphone

Perhaps you should adopt the same attitude to your car tax , car insurance and all the other yearly fees you have to pay OB as that is life and one has to accept even if one does not agree with certain fees one still has to pay it even though it might be through gritted teeth.

You forgot council tax in your list - probably the most expensive and least liked.

I cannot really think what I get for my £2k apart from a weekly bin collection, don't say road maintenance as the state of the surfaces around here are atrocious.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

Perhaps you should adopt the same attitude to your car tax , car insurance and all the other yearly fees you have to pay OB as that is life and one has to accept even if one does not agree with certain fees one still has to pay it even though it might be through gritted teeth.

The examples are not the same, though, Den. If I don't own a car, then I certainly do not pay car tax , car insurance, etc. However, whether or not I watch or listen to the BBC, I still have to pay the licence fee.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The examples are not the same, though, Den. If I don't own a car, then I certainly do not pay car tax , car insurance, etc. However, whether or not I watch or listen to the BBC, I still have to pay the licence fee.

Its quite obvious if one does not own a car, then one certainly does not pay car tax , car insurance , etc , etc but OB being OB fails to see the clear point l have made.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

Its quite obvious if one does not own a car, then one certainly does not pay car tax , car insurance , etc , etc but OB being OB fails to see the clear point l have made.

What are you on about, Den? My point is that if you don't have a car, you don't pay car tax.

But I could have a TV to watch channels OTHER THAN the BBC and never listen to the radio, and yet I still have to pay for it.

Why is it right to your mind that I am forced to pay for something I don't want, need or that benefits me in any way?

I am not describing myself by the way. I do watch BBC TV and radio and I would gladly stump up for a subscription rather than a licence fee. However, I would never expect others who don't to have to pay. That's just weird, and so last century.

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Originally Posted by Raider999

You forgot council tax in your list - probably the most expensive and least liked.

I cannot really think what I get for my £2k apart from a weekly bin collection, don't say road maintenance as the state of the surfaces around here are atrocious.

However, the council does provide education, social care and many other services that you may not currently rely on, but you or your family may well need in the future. Education services you have already benefited from personally as you went to school, and even if you went to a private school, you still benefit from those around you being appropriately educated because they will go on to provide services to you and also contribute to having a thriving economy.

These arguments do not apply to the BBC in any way as its primary function is to provide entertainment for personal consumption. If you don't like what the BBC provides and don't watch or listen to its output, it really defies logic that you should be charged for it.

Oh, and by the way:

https://www.rapidtvnews.com/20180223...#axzz57vhGw49B

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

What are you on about, Den? My point is that if you don't have a car, you don't pay car tax.

But I could have a TV to watch channels OTHER THAN the BBC and never listen to the radio, and yet I still have to pay for it.

Why is it right to your mind that I am forced to pay for something I don't want, need or that benefits me in any way?

I am not describing myself by the way. I do watch BBC TV and radio and I would gladly stump up for a subscription rather than a licence fee. However, I would never expect others who don't to have to pay. That's just weird, and so last century.

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However, the council does provide education, social care and many other services that you may not currently rely on, but you or your family may well need in the future. Education services you have already benefited from personally as you went to school, and even if you went to a private school, you still benefit from those around you being appropriately educated because they will go on to provide services to you and also contribute to having a thriving economy.

These arguments do not apply to the BBC in any way as its primary function is to provide entertainment for personal consumption. If you don't like what the BBC provides and don't watch or listen to its output, it really defies logic that you should be charged for it.

Oh, and by the way:

https://www.rapidtvnews.com/20180223...#axzz57vhGw49B

Just as I have no use for the services councils maintain at the present or in the future (yes I have used them many years ago) I am fairly confident that you or someone else in your family has watched the BBC in the past even if you do not now.

The license fee is for having the ability to receive tv transmission, wether or not you use it. Presumably as you are on this forum you have this facility and as such you have to pay - end of.

The money collected just happens to go to the BBC - is this fair, not in my opinion - it should be shared amongst all broadcasters - but that is how it is