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View Poll Results: When you become eligible for the Covid Vaccine, would you take it?
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Old 04-04-2021, 12:48   #4531
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Well other countries may well decide that anyone wishing to visit will need some sort of proof of vaccination. It's happened in the past.
France is looking hard into this, as they have "proof" that people crossing EU internal boarders have been carrying the virus.
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No more lockdowns: UK will treat Covid like seasonal flu, says Chris Whitty

Lockdowns will likely become a thing of the past once England emerges from restrictions in June, Professor Chris Whitty has said, as he suggested Britain will treat coronavirus like the flu in the future.

England’s chief medical officer said the UK would have to learn to live with the virus, noting that up to 25,000 people can die in a bad flu year without the figure hitting the headlines.

https://www.cityam.com/no-more-lockd...-chris-whitty/
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Old 04-04-2021, 14:01   #4533
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No more lockdowns: UK will treat Covid like seasonal flu, says Chris Whitty

Lockdowns will likely become a thing of the past once England emerges from restrictions in June, Professor Chris Whitty has said, as he suggested Britain will treat coronavirus like the flu in the future.

England’s chief medical officer said the UK would have to learn to live with the virus, noting that up to 25,000 people can die in a bad flu year without the figure hitting the headlines.

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COVID-19: Chris Whitty warns virus measures needed for another two years to combat threat of variants

Professor Whitty says a "period of risk" remains until there is a bank of vaccines that work against coronavirus variants.

Coronavirus safety measures are likely to still be necessary for another two years, England's chief medical officer has said.

Professor Chris Whitty said it could take up to two years for the world to build up a bank of vaccines and technologies capable of rapidly dealing with COVID-19 variants and outbreaks.

While he said these tools will eventually "find a way through", there still remains a level of risk that needs to be managed before then.

Speaking during a Royal Society of Medicine webinar on Thursday, Professor Whitty said a cautious approach will be needed for the next couple of years "because we've got such a difficult situation to go through at the moment".

He added: "What we don't want to be is in a situation where we look back in six months and say 'If we'd only just been a bit more cautious for a month or two we would've actually got through [vaccinating] the whole population, we'd have understood a lot more, we'd know how to deal with this, we'd probably have a few variant vaccines on the stocks'.

"I don't think though this should be seen as an indefinite posture, I think this is a matter of probably the next year or two whilst we understand how to do this and find a way of responding rapidly to variants."

However, he said a "very wide portfolio of vaccines" is likely to be available in around two years, offering greater protection.
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So people who can safely travel abroad or go to events should be prevented from doing so? That is discrimination.
Needing a vaccine passport, won't impact me personally either way, but that doesn't mean I should hold back others who wish to do those activities.
Duh! Congratulations you have managed To completely miss my point.

Firstly, I have already accepted proof of vaccination may be required for foreign travel several times on this thread, that it may be required by the country you are going to more than a U.K. requirement.

I am saying that vaccine passports should not be required by anyone to attend anything in the U.K.

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Re: Coronavirus

Whether people want vaccine passports or not the choice is between opening up with them or not opening up at all.

The Steve Bakers and IDSs of this world have been consistently on the wrong (and losing) side of this every Covid debate since the first lockdown and there is no reason to expect otherwise now.
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Whether people want vaccine passports or not the choice is between opening up with them or not opening up at all.
That’s the wrong choice, and it doesn’t or shouldn’t have to be that.
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The alternative is to delay reopening huge swathes of the economy and keep distancing measures in place which will cost businesses.

There’s no “just reopen anyway and take our chances”.
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I think the term "Nazi State" & "Tin-foil hat" is highly offensive.


To me it seems the only people who use this object to the rules that are in place and want freedom without a care for anyone.


I, for one, could happily say fuff the rules and hug my family, but as my niece works in Asda and most people ignore social distancing is at high risk, so hugging her could put my dad at risk, and I've lost one parent this year don't wish to lose another.
I find those terms more ignorant than offensive, perhaps if they had lived under an authoritarian dictatorship they'd recognise the difference, possibly in the same way they'd view the pandemic differently if they lost someone close to them or they themselves spent months on a ventilator, as with most things in life your opinion on something is based on your experiences with it
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Why are we dwelling on the Nazi aspect? The UK is in danger of turning into a police state to some degree, adequately demonstrated in recent months. Unlike the Nazi police state, our statute underpinning current police powers is fuzzy and imprecise.
So we have the police using their discretion.

If the police go too far and breach the policing by consent principle on more than the isolated occasion, then we tend towards a police state of one sort. No gas chambers, no boncentration bamps (props Monty Python), but restrictions on freedom, punishment by imprisonment or fine for ordinary people, at the whim of the police and then the courts.

Vaccine passports open the door for other keep you in check mechanisms. Once a restriction is permanently legal, government, being *******s, won't give that freedom back. If a country won't let you in without a vaccine passport, then it's their loss.
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Everyone should have been offered their first jab by July/August anyway. The only people in the long run who have to worry about not having proof of a vaccine are the anti vaxxers or deniers. As far as I am concerned they can go to hell anyway
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Duh! Congratulations you have managed To completely miss my point.

Firstly, I have already accepted proof of vaccination may be required for foreign travel several times on this thread, that it may be required by the country you are going to more than a U.K. requirement.

I am saying that vaccine passports should not be required by anyone to attend anything in the U.K.

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It’s a coronavirus. Same horse different Jockey
Not really - you’ve just done a complete 180.

You repeatedly said "it’s a flu" - it isn’t; some coronaviruses cause colds, but not flu.

Influenza is in the Orthomyxoviridae family of viruses, not Coronaviridae...
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Why are we dwelling on the Nazi aspect? The UK is in danger of turning into a police state to some degree, adequately demonstrated in recent months. Unlike the Nazi police state, our statute underpinning current police powers is fuzzy and imprecise.
So we have the police using their discretion.


If the police go too far and breach the policing by consent principle on more than the isolated occasion, then we tend towards a police state of one sort. No gas chambers, no boncentration bamps (props Monty Python), but restrictions on freedom, punishment by imprisonment or fine for ordinary people, at the whim of the police and then the courts.

Vaccine passports open the door for other keep you in check mechanisms. Once a restriction is permanently legal, government, being *******s, won't give that freedom back. If a country won't let you in without a vaccine passport, then it's their loss.
IMO they are pushing the boundaries to see how far they can go.
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IMO they are pushing the boundaries to see how far they can go.
The party of law and order is in charge, you voted for them. Be grateful.
Don't want any of those nasty liberals do we ?
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Don't want any of those nasty liberals do we ?
i was talking about the police not the government.
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i was talking about the police not the government.
Who makes the laws for the police to enforce? Answers on a postcard....
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