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Old 03-04-2021, 12:04   #3991
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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The difference between the UK covering the cost of £1,765 per person, and Scotland doing so, ought to be obvious. The UK economy as a whole is broad and dynamic enough to cope. It has been designed to be that way by generations of policy choices. Scotland does not have that depth or breadth within itself ... thereís no reason why it should, because its economy is not designed to operate independently. It is designed as a component of the UK economy. Thatís not a failing, itís the whole point of the union (Scotland being effectively bankrupt in 1707).

Converting Scotlandís economic activity into Ďan economyí would be a difficult and expensive process, causing a great deal of hardship to the very people presently in thrall to the SNPís seductive promises of freebies for all.
It's all about sovereignty, facts and figures are irrelevant. Sound familiar?
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Old 03-04-2021, 12:26   #3992
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It's all about sovereignty, facts and figures are irrelevant. Sound familiar?
With Scotland's share of the covid bill and the monies owed to the EU under the withdrawal agreement monies going to be tight.
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Old 03-04-2021, 12:31   #3993
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With Scotland's share of the covid bill and the monies owed to the EU under the withdrawal agreement monies going to be tight.
Maybe they can use the North Sea oil as payment that we've pilfered over the years.
Anyway Scotland voted to Remain, England voted to Leave, so England should pay the EU bill.
Nicola should really use me as a negotiator
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Old 03-04-2021, 12:42   #3994
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Maybe they can use the North Sea oil as payment that we've pilfered over the years.
Anyway Scotland voted to Remain, England voted to Leave, so England should pay the EU bill.
Nicola should really use me as a negotiator
No one wants the oil the world is changing, we voted as a single entity, you should negotiate for them, ill get the pop corn in.
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Old 03-04-2021, 12:59   #3995
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

England was propping up Scotland long before the oil was discovered. Even with their share included in the GERS accounts, their annual deficit is still huge.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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It's all about sovereignty, facts and figures are irrelevant. Sound familiar?
Very.

The difference is that the UK can afford the hit. Scotland alone however is far less able to do so and would be disconnecting itself from a far more deeply integrated and valuable internal market. While the arguments around Brexit and Scexit are superficially similar in some ways, thatís all it is. The consequences for Scotland of failing to grasp that would be profound.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Many people in Scotland , do not want Indy2, The Scottish Government cannot run the country , neglecting housing, education, NHS, just to put money towards Indy2, Full of crooks and unworthy candidates, as for the New Alba party they should be in an asylum ,Scotland Needs Westminster, and we love the English people, we have family in England and we should never separate, God help us if they get their way, we cannot all pack up and leave Scotland at our age
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No one wants the oil the world is changing, we voted as a single entity, you should negotiate for them, ill get the pop corn in.
I'm not so sure about that papa

https://www.iogp.org/oil-natgas-in-everyday-life/
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Many people in Scotland , do not want Indy2,
Currently 45%-45% so all to play for on both sides of the debate!
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That's old school , everything will be made out of electrons by 2030 and run on wind, and solar power. Gretard has shown us the way, Scotland will be totally buggered by then and will be running on peat and charity donations
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Old 03-04-2021, 16:04   #4001
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Many people in Scotland , do not want Indy2, The Scottish Government cannot run the country , neglecting housing, education, NHS, just to put money towards Indy2, Full of crooks and unworthy candidates, as for the New Alba party they should be in an asylum ,Scotland Needs Westminster, and we love the English people, we have family in England and we should never separate, God help us if they get their way, we cannot all pack up and leave Scotland at our age
No problem then, don't vote for the SNP.
However if the Scots keep voting them in on a platform of another vote, then that's democracy.
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No problem then, don't vote for the SNP.
However if the Scots keep voting them in on a platform of another vote, then that's democracy.
The problem is that (until the Alba Party appeared) the separatist vote really had nowhere to go except to the SNP. Itís a minority, but itís the biggest minority. Politics-as-usual is possible through three mainstream parties, one of the left, one centrist and left-leaning, and one centre right (though notably less right than its English branch). The unionist vote is therefore neatly split, and the only party that can plausibly run a minority administration is the SNP. There are doubtless a few dingbats who believe in the union then overcompensate by voting for the party thatís appropriated all the saltires, but the SNP vote is essentially the separatist vote.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

IF Krankie was to get her wish, then the UK should adopt a new flag, first remove the Scottish blue, the help keep the Welsh happy by putting the Dragon on our flag.
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SNP reported to police over fraud


POLICE have launched a probe into the SNPs finances following allegations of fraud.

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Maybe they can use the North Sea oil as payment that we've pilfered over the years.
Anyway Scotland voted to Remain, England voted to Leave, so England should pay the EU bill.
Nicola should really use me as a negotiator
As part of the UK, Scotland should pay itís share.

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Many people in Scotland , do not want Indy2, The Scottish Government cannot run the country , neglecting housing, education, NHS, just to put money towards Indy2, Full of crooks and unworthy candidates, as for the New Alba party they should be in an asylum ,Scotland Needs Westminster, and we love the English people, we have family in England and we should never separate, God help us if they get their way, we cannot all pack up and leave Scotland at our age
If the Scots really donít want Indy2, they should jolly well stop supporting the SNP!
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